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Pop won't offer him the playing time he could get in Dallas or LA... He may want to contend but he's also in a contract year... Looks like we're getting Jamison, it's Pop 101...
No, we actually don't all agree on that. Granger would be a nice safety net, but he's not going to even be a role-player.
Pop won't offer him the playing time he could get in Dallas or LA... He may want to contend but he's also in a contract year... Looks like we're getting Jamison, it's Pop 101...
That's all a far cry from saying that he's currently better offensively than Leonard and Green, and it's inconceivable that he will get there over the last 20 games. If Indiana thought that was a possibility, he'd still be a Pacer.
Granger's a pro and I'd like to see him on the Spurs, but the chance that he makes any significant impact this year is very, very small.
Ok to each his own. Beauty of ST.
Dudley doesn't even belong in the rotation and Barnes should be coming off the bench....
23 minutes per game on a contender isn't a limited minute role, tbh..
Granger isn't anywhere near Leonard or Manu, and he isn't as good as Green or Beli..I don't see where he would find 20 minutes per game on the Spurs, and I don't think he would accept a role playing 15 per game or less, tbh..
The Mavs, Clippers and maybe the Bulls could offer him guaranteed minutes..if he really wants a le, he would probably choose Miami and OKC over the Spurs, too..the Clippers could offer him both a good role and a shot at a le..
I haven't watched the Pacers much either and Granger would likely get some better looks with Spurs. I just see very little chance that Granger would supplant established rotation players this season.
btw, you brought up attacking the rim. Leonard has made 72% of his shots at the rim this season. Granger has made 52%.
Oh I completely agree that it's absurd to say he's currently better offensively than Leonard/Green. I think there's a decent chance he could have a small, but positive impact though. Kawhi played a ton last playoffs (36+ mpg); we don't need a backup SF to play 15-20 mpg. If Granger can give us 5-10 decent minutes so Kawhi can get rest and the team not consequently fall apart, I'll consider that a success. I'd rather have Granger giving us those minutes than Daye.
Daye won't play in the playoffs. Green is the backup SF, just as he was all the way through the 2013 playoffs.
shouldn't drop off much coming to the spurs. as he would be in a very similar situation.
Leonard perhaps, but all Green can do is shoot 3's. It's far from inconceivable that Granger could match Greens 38% 3 point shooting this year, and even a s of Granger will be able to put the ball on the floor better than Green.
Leonard is an interesting one. Granger is actually shooting the 3 better than Kawhi this season on a similar number of attempts, and considering Kawhi is in a much better offensive situation with the Spurs than Granger was with the Pacers I'd give Granger the benefit of the doubt there.
In the half court I'm not really sure exactly of what Kawhi might be better at, except putbacks from offensive rebounds. We all know Pop doesn't run much for Kawhi, whether that's because Pop doesn't have faith in Kawhi yet or it's just the system I guess none of us know.
How much of that might be because of the breakaway dunks Kawhi gets off of steals every game? You've still got to finish them but it seems that could inflate those stats somewhat.
Quite frankly I'm shocked at how poorly Kawhi is shooting the 3 this year. I didn't realise it until I started comparing with Granger he is actually shooting worse than Grangers 33% in a better system. That's quite worrying.
Leonard is shooting significantly better than Granger at every interval from the rim to the 3 point line. They are virtually equally for the entire season beyond the 3 point line and that's due to Kawhi's horrendous start. He shot 20% in November and was up to 43% in January.
Anyway, if Granger does join the Spurs, we'll see what role he gets he play. My guess is that it will be very small unless there is an injury to Leonard, Gree, Manu, or Belinelli.
My original point stands. If Granger is looking for a situation where he is most likely to get significant playing time (similar to his role this season in Indy) on a good team, he'll choose a team other than the Spurs.
For a team that supposedly went hard at AK47 in the offseason, it's puzzling why a guy like Earl Clark hasn't been signed yet. He's got the most defensive upside left out of the group and is also the ideal fit for the Spurs' current roster need. Unless there's something we don't know about him, he should be the top target for RC tbh.
I think that might be too quick a conclusion. I think Green only managed to play well in the backup 3 spot because of the matchups. Most of the teams played small with a guard at the 3, I don't remember him very often having to defend legit small forwards. Memphis and the Lakers played big, but the 3's in those series were not real offensive threats from the outside and he mainly spent his time doubling the post.
I actually think if we need to defend a legitimate threat at the small forward position such as Durant or Lebron, I'd rather have Diaw playing those minutes. Danny just isn't big or long enough to guard those guys.
Look at Kawhi's monthly splits from 3.
And of course, Kawhi's FG% is helped by the fact that he gets so many steals.
+1 dawg.
For a team that supposedly went hard at AK47 in the offseason, it's puzzling why a guy like Earl Clark hasn't been signed yet. He's got the most defensive upside left out of the group and is also the ideal fit for the Spurs' current roster need. Unless there's something we don't know about him, he should be the top target for RC tbh.
Even if Granger is a better 3-point shooter than Kawhi at this point (which I'm not sure of)...he's not even shooting 40% on 2-point FGAs. That's horrible. Kawhi is almost shooting 60% on 2-point attempts.
Leonard will guard Durant and LeBron when they play the 3. He'll guard them most of the time when they play the 4. Green is the backup SF.
I partially agree when talking about playoffs, but in terms of the rest of the regular season I don't see how he wouldn't play 20+ minutes with all the injuries and rest. Even if the team is suddenly 100% healthy for the rest of the season (which I don't expect), Pop will still rest Timmy, Manu, Parker and Kawhi enough to give him good regular season minutes.
We'll see. If Granger joins the Spurs, I'll be rooting for his success.
Yeah, I don't know why Green is undermined in this forum. He's a gamer, tbh. You want him on your team in the playoffs.
For a team that supposedly went hard at AK47 in the offseason, it's puzzling why a guy like Earl Clark hasn't been signed yet. He's got the most defensive upside left out of the group and is also the ideal fit for the Spurs' current roster need. Unless there's something we don't know about him, he should be the top target for RC tbh.
Agreed, but he's a 3&D guy and that's all he'll ever be. It's not disrespecting him to say that.
to be fair (based on this season), that's what Granger would be on this team with a worse 3 and minus the D tbh.
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