Only 9% of Scientists Self-Identify as Conservative

[ElNono]

Let me know once you fixed your typos, so I can quote you. kthx

[Wild Cobra]

9 bucks an hour is not a silver platter, knucklehead.

Agreed. But that's not where the proponents of a "living wage" are speaking of.

Still, don't we need a larger choice of jobs?

The minimum wage laws were created in a time when business could exploit workers because of the excessive labor pool vs. the number of jobs available. We are seeing that again today, but the cause is different. Raising the minimum wage is not the solution this time. We need to stop exporting jobs, or all we will have is an ever increasing percentage of minimum wage workers, who will not be paying any taxes.

Notice how there is little worry about the minimum wage when we have good economic times? Did the minimum wage levels matter?

Raising the wages artificially will make us even less compe ive in the world. We need to reverse the trend we have, not accelerate it.

[Wild Cobra]

Its my phone wallpaper tbh.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

[baseline bum]

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Because you're a re ?

[TeyshaBlue]

Agreed. But that's not where the proponents of a "living wage" are speaking of.

Still, don't we need a larger choice of jobs?

The minimum wage laws were created in a time when business could exploit workers because of the excessive labor pool vs. the number of jobs available. We are seeing that again today, but the cause is different. Raising the minimum wage is not the solution this time. We need to stop exporting jobs, or all we will have is an ever increasing percentage of minimum wage workers, who will not be paying any taxes.

Notice how there is little worry about the minimum wage when we have good economic times? Did the minimum wage levels matter?

Raising the wages artificially will make us even less compe ive in the world. We need to reverse the trend we have, not accelerate it.

I'm a proponent of a living wage. $9 seems a decent place to start in some areas of the country.
Lets stop exporting jobs. Lets pay $9/hr min for starters. Show me a specific problem with that approach.

[pgardn]

http://www.dol.gov/dol/aboutdol/history/flsa1938.htm


This is very interesting.
Minimum wage is indeed a twisted tale.
I had no idea about the stickers in the windows.

[TeyshaBlue]

Let me know once you fixed your typos, so I can quote you. kthx

Quote this.


GFY.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://www.dol.gov/dol/aboutdol/history/flsa1938.htm


This is very interesting.
Minimum wage is indeed a twisted tale.
I had no idea about the stickers in the windows.

Yeah...Ive read that link before. Very interesting.

[ElNono]

Quote this.


GFY.

[TeyshaBlue]

Wait! I meant GFY lib !

[TeyshaBlue]

Dammit.

[ElNono]

this republican't... (get it? republi-"can't" hahahahahahahahahaha)

[TeyshaBlue]

You crack yourself up.

[ElNono]

nice accordion, BTW... my dad played ones of those.

[TeyshaBlue]

1932 Napoli treble reed. Its a beast. Its my tactical accordion.

[ElNono]

Props. Incredibly difficult to play those things last time I tried... (about 20 years ago)

[Th'Pusher]

You stated all GM crops were bad. I asked you to look at the interesting history of Golden Rice as one example.
So what do you say now? Same thing...

Pollan has an interesting take on genetically modified foods. The promises behind GM foods  —  much less need for pesticides, much higher yields  —  haven’t come true save in isolated cases. But they have driven a massive change in food production. "What genetic modification of crops has given us is dramatic consolidation," he says. "Monsanto has used the huge profits from Roundup Ready seeds to buy up a sizable portion of the seed industry."


This is something, Pollan says, that you see again and again when you look at which food innovations get attention  —  and funding. A close look often shows that the problem being solved wasn’t a problem in how we grow food, but in how companies grow profits.


Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. There’s a "key fact" you need to know to understand the food industry, Pollan says: Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. That is  —  or at least was  —  a problem.


"For a long time people in the industry thought it was impossible to get people to eat more," Pollan says. "They called it ‘the fixed stomach’ and they lamented that, unlike in the shoe business where you could get people to keep buying more kinds of shoes, you couldn’t get people to eat more. Well, they’re to be congratulated. They solved that problem. Capitalism is very powerful. It solves problems. But it solves its own problems, not always our problems."


Take Golden Rice, Pollan says. That’s a genetically modified rice meant to address vitamin A deficiencies in the developing word. "That’ll be terrific if they ever get it into a field," Pollan says. "But it’s important to ask whether you spend $300 million on Gold or encourage them to plant squash or greens in pots around their houses or around the edges of t fields."


"Sometimes there’s a really boring way to achieve the same thing. But we tend to love solutions that have intellectual property attached to them that someone could profit from."

http://www.vox.com/2014/4/23/5627992...much-influence

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pollan has an interesting take on genetically modified foods. The promises behind GM foods  —  much less need for pesticides, much higher yields  —  haven’t come true save in isolated cases. But they have driven a massive change in food production. "What genetic modification of crops has given us is dramatic consolidation," he says. "Monsanto has used the huge profits from Roundup Ready seeds to buy up a sizable portion of the seed industry."


This is something, Pollan says, that you see again and again when you look at which food innovations get attention  —  and funding. A close look often shows that the problem being solved wasn’t a problem in how we grow food, but in how companies grow profits.


Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. There’s a "key fact" you need to know to understand the food industry, Pollan says: Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. That is  —  or at least was  —  a problem.


"For a long time people in the industry thought it was impossible to get people to eat more," Pollan says. "They called it ‘the fixed stomach’ and they lamented that, unlike in the shoe business where you could get people to keep buying more kinds of shoes, you couldn’t get people to eat more. Well, they’re to be congratulated. They solved that problem. Capitalism is very powerful. It solves problems. But it solves its own problems, not always our problems."


Take Golden Rice, Pollan says. That’s a genetically modified rice meant to address vitamin A deficiencies in the developing word. "That’ll be terrific if they ever get it into a field," Pollan says. "But it’s important to ask whether you spend $300 million on Gold or encourage them to plant squash or greens in pots around their houses or around the edges of t fields."


"Sometimes there’s a really boring way to achieve the same thing. But we tend to love solutions that have intellectual property attached to them that someone could profit from."

http://www.vox.com/2014/4/23/5627992...much-influence

What a ty article. The US is the leading exporter in food. There representation of the industry relative to only the US market is asinine and exports are a good thing in the general sense.

The issue that this author does not address is overpopulation and the need to stretch our food production to meet an ever growing human population. The author might not like it but the world needs more food production all the time. Innovations are essential all the way back to nitrogen production.

[pgardn]

Pollan has an interesting take on genetically modified foods. The promises behind GM foods  —  much less need for pesticides, much higher yields  —  haven’t come true save in isolated cases. But they have driven a massive change in food production. "What genetic modification of crops has given us is dramatic consolidation," he says. "Monsanto has used the huge profits from Roundup Ready seeds to buy up a sizable portion of the seed industry."


This is something, Pollan says, that you see again and again when you look at which food innovations get attention  —  and funding. A close look often shows that the problem being solved wasn’t a problem in how we grow food, but in how companies grow profits.


Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. There’s a "key fact" you need to know to understand the food industry, Pollan says: Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. That is  —  or at least was  —  a problem.


"For a long time people in the industry thought it was impossible to get people to eat more," Pollan says. "They called it ‘the fixed stomach’ and they lamented that, unlike in the shoe business where you could get people to keep buying more kinds of shoes, you couldn’t get people to eat more. Well, they’re to be congratulated. They solved that problem. Capitalism is very powerful. It solves problems. But it solves its own problems, not always our problems."


Take Golden Rice, Pollan says. That’s a genetically modified rice meant to address vitamin A deficiencies in the developing word. "That’ll be terrific if they ever get it into a field," Pollan says. "But it’s important to ask whether you spend $300 million on Gold or encourage them to plant squash or greens in pots around their houses or around the edges of t fields."


"Sometimes there’s a really boring way to achieve the same thing. But we tend to love solutions that have intellectual property attached to them that someone could profit from."

http://www.vox.com/2014/4/23/5627992...much-influence

Wall Street wants these companies to grow by at least 5 percent each year. But America’s population only grows by about 1 percent each year. That is  —  or at least was  —  a problem.

What? equating the growth of the US to what Wall Street wants. And with numbers that you can't flippantly cross compare? Wall Street wants... This means some investors are thinking GM food could be profitable, what a surprise. Once people see the anti GM backlash maybe Wall Street will WANT otherwise.

Some places have huge rice ready fields for mass production and export. We are not talking subsistence farming here.
Its silly to throw away a possibly useful technique that could provide for better crops of all sorts. Just because it has to be in the hands of a big companies... That's just ignorant thinking. The US has been able to provide more food more efficiently because we innovate.

There are also crops that are planted that are not eaten. Pollan is a health food guy who has some good ideas on healthy food. But this article is written for a US audience. There are malnourished people outside the US that can't go shopping for vegetables in season at Whole Foods.

Personally I like to fish, I like to eat the fish I catch, and I have incisors. I like meat. And I love my vegetables. Pollan suggests we should eat only small amounts of healthy vegetables. Not every meal for me. Sorry.

[boutons_deux]

Monsanto, Syngynta, etc aren't developing GM to save the world. They don't GAF about people starving to death.

[Th'Pusher]

Its silly to throw away a possibly useful technique that could provide for better crops of all sorts. Just because it has to be in the hands of a big companies... That's just ignorant thinking.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that. The larger point was that the most profitable solution is not always the best solution. Profitability drives innovation though... which is a good thing. The difficulty is finding the right balance.

[boutons_deux]

GMO Crops in Iowa Fail as Rootworms Develop Resistance

So it should be no surprise that GMO crops are failing because the very pests they are designed to withstand are developing resistance to the toxins within.

We are seeing the same sort of evolutionary phenomenon in humans with antibiotic-resistant superbugs, illnesses that are able to thrive despite being bombarded with modern drugs, precisely because of modern bugs.

In the case of Iowa corn crops, the Western Corn Rootworms have made it their business to survive and thrive no matter what Monsanto throws at them. To that end, they’ve grown resistant to two strains of Bt Corn, beginning with Cry3Bb1, which researchers found them defending themselves against in 2009. In 2011, it was mCry3A, according to Gizmodo.

When these strains of corn are not “managed correctly”, they don’t produce enough of the Bt toxin to kill the rootworms (a beetle larvae). Instead, the toxin only kills the weak and small. Through the process of natural selection, those larger and stronger larvae survive and create additional larger and stronger larvae. As a result, Iowa has larger, stronger, and more destructive rootworms.
As NaturalNews reports, though we are seeing this in Iowa now, it could certainly be a sign of things to come on farms everywhere. About 85 percent of American corn is genetically modified. Ninety-one percent of soybeans and 88 percent of cotton is as well. If insects are able to develop resistance to the very poisons designed to control them, these industries could be the death of themselves.

http://naturalsociety.com/gmo-crops-...#ixzz30BlN8xok

Beside GM corn not killing the worms, the vast majority of GM crop fields are now infested with Roundup-resistant superweeds, so Monsanto wants to add Agent Orange.

[pgardn]

I don't think anyone was suggesting that. The larger point was that the most profitable solution is not always the best solution. Profitability drives innovation though... which is a good thing. The difficulty is finding the right balance.

Just read Boots.

GM = BIG BAD INDUSTRY

He has not learned that selective breeding brings about exactly the same problems in that nature through natural selection in most instances wins in the long run. No crop is full proof perfect. Farming will always require new varieties.

The implication made by saying Wall Street wants is that it is its own evil en y, not a market.

[Wild Cobra]

Monsanto, Syngynta, etc aren't developing GM to save the world. They don't GAF about people starving to death.

Boutons...

I found an avatar for you:

[boutons_deux]

Just read Boots.

GM = BIG BAD INDUSTRY

He has not learned that selective breeding brings about exactly the same problems in that nature through natural selection in most instances wins in the long run. No crop is full proof perfect. Farming will always require new varieties.

The implication made by saying Wall Street wants is that it is its own evil en y, not a market.

has it been proved that the Vit A in your adored Golden Rice is at a reliable content level AND, above all, is it in a form that is bioavailable?