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Love would've stat padded them out of playoff contention tbh.
If they had this years version of Kevin Love instead of Dirk?
Love would've stat padded them out of playoff contention tbh.
You think? What's the difference between 2011 Dirk and this year's Love tbh?
The difference is beyond the numbers. Something you can't calculate. It's in Dirk's German blood.
Dirk's lack of cancer tbh.
That team was very inspiring that year. They weren't about dynasty, or proving they're the best of all time and all that stuff black athletes care about so much. They just wanted to win NOW. It was sad to see the Lakers lose but it was obvious they werent going to the finals 4 years in a row, the team was too tired physically.
I still think if Pau doesnt act like a vagina in the first 2 games we win that series but lose in the finals
it was a bunch of players that wanted to validate themselves with a ring... i'm glad they won it. Dirk, Kidd, Marion, Chandler, Terry, and even Peja were all guys that had played so damn well for years.
No you wouldn't. The Mavs had them beat and the Diggler was beastin.
Go look up Dirk's numbers for the playoffs that year. Legendary, tbh.
of course not.
yet another stupid thread
kevin love is empty stats man
the talent on the wolves team he has should be pplayoff bound, he has no excuses why that team cant even get 8th seed....
replace him with dirk and that wolves team would be making a playoff appearance
and people thought Manu > Dirk was bad.....
I wouldn't trade Dirk for even 3 Kevin Loves tbh.
Only his OKC series was legendary.
Portland: 27.3, 7.8, 3 on .575% TS (
Lakers: 25.3, 9.3, 2.5 on .673% TS (Albeit lower because the Lakers sucked so much he got to sit for game 4. By sit I mean still play 31 minutes.)
OKC: 32.2, 5.8, 2.6 on .701% TS (speaks for itself)
Miami: 26, 9.7, 2.0 on .537% TS (JET was the dagger, not Dirk)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2011/
I think Kevin Love could have did it. The rest of his team was stacked in a way that Loves' never will be in Minnesota. The Mavs had the 3rd highest salary that year with 86 mil. (Behind the Lakers at 90 and Magic at 89)
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Does Kevin Love have any halfcourt iso game at all? All i see him do is bomb 3's and score on putbacks. He's really good at it, but late in games can they just give him the ball to go win it, and could he score at even 1/10th the efficiency Dirk did in 2011?
Maybe the question is, in 2011 if you swapped Love for Duncan would the 8purs have gotten their asses handed to them by M
Dirk's TS% in the 2011 playoffs was .609%, .612 in the regular season. Love's this season is .596. It's not like they're on different planets or anything.
I'm talking 4th quarter with the game on the line. When defenses tighten up, does Kevin Love have an iso game that can consistently produce points? All i see is him scoring off the pass or cleaning up on an offensive rebound. Which he is dominant at, but still, does Kevin Love have any ability to do the superstar "give me the ball and get out of my way" end of game isolation?
I'd love to see Love's 4th quarter stats vs what Dirk did in 4th quarters during that playoff run. Also, Dirk has never been known for his defense, but he's still ten times the defender that Love is.
If you're too stupid to know the difference, explaining it to you won't help.
With Dallas, you had to stop Dirk else you lose. No one could stop Dirk.
With Minny, no one has to stop Love. He can go off for 40, it doesn't matter. If they had to stop Kevin Love, they could, but since no one needs to, why bother? Let him have his points and we'll take the W.
I hope you're not serious.Only his OKC series was legendary.
Portland: 27.3, 7.8, 3 on .575% TS (
Lakers: 25.3, 9.3, 2.5 on .673% TS (Albeit lower because the Lakers sucked so much he got to sit for game 4. By sit I mean still play 31 minutes.)
OKC: 32.2, 5.8, 2.6 on .701% TS (speaks for itself)
Miami: 26, 9.7, 2.0 on .537% TS (JET was the dagger, not Dirk)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2011/
I think Kevin Love could have did it. The rest of his team was stacked in a way that Loves' never will be in Minnesota. The Mavs had the 3rd highest salary that year with 86 mil. (Behind the Lakers at 90 and Magic at 89)
I'd think he would get assisted on most of his jump shots. We both know he doesn't have the same iso moves as Dirk does, only KD or pre Achilles Kobe could compare with that.
I think it's just as important that he has the ability to get to the line that Dirk did in 2011. That took his numbers from great to incredible during the OKC series. They talked about it all the time during that run because he was close to breaking that consecutive free throws record, right?
I'm talking about that because tbh this question should really be reworded as "Could the 2011 Mavs beat OKC with Kevin Love instead of Dirk?" Although, I guess you're saying that you couldn't beat the Heat without him too. (Seeing as most of Dirks' contributions during that series were in the 4th with isoball like you're saying.)
Here's the numbers for OKC at least
Game 1: 48 points, 24/24 FT, 12/15 FG. Mavs win by 9.
Game 2: 29 points, 9/10 FT, 10/17 FG. Thunder win by 6.
Game 3: 18 points, 3/3 FT, 7/21 FG. Mavs win by 6
Game 4: 40 points, 14/15 FT, 12/20 FG. Mavs win by 7.
Game 5: 26 points, 9/9 FT, 8/15 FG. Mavs win by 4.
Actually, I'll just make another post when I've got the time to go through each game. I've already typed this out, so I'll just let it sit here.
I am, and even if I wasn't it's still better basketball discussion than just saying "Dirk can make jumpshot real good, he's unstoppable!" or repeating the same lines over and over again about Kevin Love. (To be fair, my mind isn't entirely made up on either way. I don't think Dirk was as unstoppable as everyone is making him out to be, but that's just my opinion before I've actually dug down into looking at the games)
It's not enough to say that he did tbh. You have to answer the 1) how he was able to be successful, 2) why was he able to be successful, and 3) why couldn't Kevin Love do the same? (Or do enough to win in 7)
I don't have time right now to look more in depth into it, but later tonight I can. If you can answer those questions, feel free to do so.
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