Granger "pissed" when learned he had been traded...could sign with Spurs/Heat?

[TeKu]

My apologies if this has been covered earlier (but thread is 14 pages now)...

I don't see the financial incentive for the 76ers to do a buyout here. Didn't they trade for him partly because his extra salary would get them to the team salary floor (Yes i know they got picks as well)? If they do a buyout for a lower figure they'll just have to pay the majority of those 'saved' $$$'s to the other players on their squad anyway due to being below the salary floor again. Someone tell me what I'm missing?

[024]

Hmm the rumors of the Clippers possibly offering Granger a starting spot is discouraging. Granger is obviously looking for more playing time.

Granger's all star days are definitely over. He needs to reinvent himself as a solid role player so he can get a decent contract after his current one expires. Playing on the Spurs might help him do that. They can rehabilitate his 3 point shot (38% career but sub par this season). A nice structure and good coaching can turn him into a 3 point shooting wing defender. But sadly, I think Granger will continue being in denial and chase playing time.

[024]

My apologies if this has been covered earlier (but thread is 14 pages now)...

I don't see the financial incentive for the 76ers to do a buyout here. Didn't they trade for him partly because his extra salary would get them to the team salary floor (Yes i know they got picks as well)? If they do a buyout for a lower figure they'll just have to pay the majority of those 'saved' $$$'s to the other players on their squad anyway due to being below the salary floor again. Someone tell me what I'm missing?

The Bleacher Report article above covers this:

"The Sixers want to get out of as much of Granger's contract as possible. Hinkie already pulled off a nifty cir vention of the NBA's salary floor rules, pushing Philly over the threshold at the last possible minute.

While the Pacers have already paid more than half of Granger's $14.02 million salary for 2013-14, his entire hold gets placed on Philly's cap. That means instead of redistributing the unspent money to players currently on the roster—as NBA rules state teams under the floor must do—the owners get to pocket the unspent coin.

Every penny the Sixers save in Granger buyout talks is another in ownership's pocket, as his cap hold remains on the sheet even after a buyout. Joshua Harris, the Sixers' principal owner, isn't known around league circles as a cheap guy, but it has to be easier for him to swallow this terrible roster while making a handsome profit rather than staring at the bottom line."

[TeKu]

Thanks 024

[hater]

lets just resign mcgrady

AMEN brotha

/thread

[ace3g]

lets just resign mcgrady

sure just "pitch" the idea to Pop

[Chinook]

The Bleacher Report article above covers this:

"The Sixers want to get out of as much of Granger's contract as possible. Hinkie already pulled off a nifty cir vention of the NBA's salary floor rules, pushing Philly over the threshold at the last possible minute.

While the Pacers have already paid more than half of Granger's $14.02 million salary for 2013-14, his entire hold gets placed on Philly's cap. That means instead of redistributing the unspent money to players currently on the roster—as NBA rules state teams under the floor must do—the owners get to pocket the unspent coin.

Every penny the Sixers save in Granger buyout talks is another in ownership's pocket, as his cap hold remains on the sheet even after a buyout. Joshua Harris, the Sixers' principal owner, isn't known around league circles as a cheap guy, but it has to be easier for him to swallow this terrible roster while making a handsome profit rather than staring at the bottom line."

Philly is still under the floor. They have to pay whatever they save on Granger to the others. Also, they really didn't save a whole lot, as they also traded out salary for Granger. Sure, they got some back, but only a couple Million.

[look_at_g_shred]

The buyout has been agreed, but how long till it's complete? I think this will drag out till Saturday.

[jon123spurs]

Well
Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) tweeted at 4:12 PM on Wed, Feb 26, 2014:
Yahoo Sources: The Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the frontrunners to sign Danny Granger. http://t.co/vWO717XrsC
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/stat...98655089569792)

[LakerHater]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/02/26/s...out/index.html

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/02/26/s...out/index.html

Honestly you have to take a look at the following:

Clippers have no history of winning and won`t be in the finals which will produce a blow up like always
Clippers have some big ass egos
Spurs can tell Granger that he can almost become the face of the program for 4-5 years maybe longer, once TD/TP/MG start to fade. Heck he can take Duncans role very soon it seems
Spurs have a way better chance of winning this year opposed to the Clippers
Spurs are an ORGANIZATION and FAMILY


I love the fact the Clippers can GIVE him a starting spot. What does that tell the other Clippers? You guys suck! If he does go there ya it will sting but honestly it will sting more cause I hate teams that never build, always trading, bring in the big names, make a blockbuster deal and throw all eggs into the basket hoping it turns out once.

[BatManu20]

The Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio Spurs are locked in a battle for the services of former All-Star swingman Danny Granger after the Philadelphia 76ers and Granger completed a contract buyout Wednesday, according to sources close to the process.

Granger is scheduled to clear waivers Friday at 5 p.m. after the Sixers announced that they had released the 30-year-old, mere days after acquiring him in a last-minute deal just before the NBA's annual trade deadline last week for Evan Turner and Lavoy Allen.

on Hoskins/NBAE via Getty ImagesAfter being traded by the Pacers, Danny Granger has been bought out by the 76ers.


ESPN.com reported Tuesday night that the Spurs and Granger share a mutual interest, but sources said Wednesday that the Clippers -- having lost starting shooting guard J.J. Re for long stretches this season due to a variety of injuries -- have the advantage of more playing time to offer.

Sources say teams interested in Granger have been consistently told in recent days that the free agent-to-be -- if he were to surrender his Larry Bird rights by securing his release from the Sixers -- would be looking for a new team that could not only offer a shot at a championship but also offer guaranteed playing time.

ESPN.com reported Tuesday that the Clippers and Spurs were widely regarded as the two strongest contenders to land Granger, with the Miami Heat expected to focus its efforts on clinching a deal with former Heat draftee Caron Butler, whose buyout from the Milwaukee Bucks, sources said, was also progressing toward completion Wednesday.

Any player who has appeared in a regular-season game this season must be waived by Saturday at midnight, according to league rules, to remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with another team.

Philadelphia's prime interest in dealing for Granger and his $14 million expiring contract was the second-round pick it acquired from the Pacers. The Sixers acquired five second-rounders last week through its various deals before the deadline.

Said Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie in a statement: "His accomplishments and accolades to this point of his NBA career more than speak for themselves, so I would like to express that I have a great deal of respect for Danny Granger as a person. The manner with which he carried himself throughout this process was professional, courteous and respectful, and speaks volumes about his character."

"Following the completion of the trade on Thursday night, Danny traveled to Philadelphia and we had an opportunity to meet with him here. These were in addition to the open lines of communication with his agent Aaron Mintz and CAA while we worked through the next steps."

"Given Danny's future goals and his desire to pursue them, we worked to fulfill his requests and have come to a resolution that we feel is mutually beneficial to both Danny and our organization.We wish Danny the best in the next phase of his career."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...-danny-granger

[BatManu20]

Sounds to me like the Clippers have the advantage imo. They'll probably promise him more PT (whether they actually give it to him or not) and Pop will be honest with him. Plus, with Re likely out for much of the next couple months at least, and Dudley playing poorly, he probably would get more opportunity to play in LA. Add the fact that he already lives there in the offseason and it just makes more sense imo.

[Kidd K]

^ Exactly. The Spurs are going to be honest and tell him he's going to have a specific role which may or may not increase depending on injury and his performance. Clippers will promise him a major role whether or not they deliver on it (likely not).

Clippers will also be able to give more playing time, so I would say it's probably something like 70/30 in Clippers favor for getting him. Maybe even 80/20.

[TheWriter]

Reasons to choose Bulls:

1. Playing time this season to audition for one more lucrative contract from some team this summer.
2. Proximity of Chicago to Indiana

The bottom line is that all of us are guessing as to Granger's priorities and which teams may be interested in his services.

First off, he's not going to the Bulls. Second, what would Chicago's proximity to Indiana play a role? He lives in New Mexico in the off-season. Doesn't have kids as far as I know. More than likely leases a place in Indy.

[superbigtime]

Who is Granger gonna choose... a south Texas city full of fat married Hispanics and a team full of good guy global players with a white hard-ass coach, or the glitzy west coast city with lots of superficial white s to bang and the team with otha brothas like CP3, Deandre, and Griff led by a black coach who coached Garnett, Pierce and Rondo? n DUH. Why is anyone deliberating over the obvious.

[Chewbacca]

The Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio Spurs are locked in a battle for the services of former All-Star swingman Danny Granger after the Philadelphia 76ers and Granger completed a contract buyout Wednesday, according to sources close to the process.

Granger is scheduled to clear waivers Friday at 5 p.m. after the Sixers announced that they had released the 30-year-old, mere days after acquiring him in a last-minute deal just before the NBA's annual trade deadline last week for Evan Turner and Lavoy Allen.

on Hoskins/NBAE via Getty ImagesAfter being traded by the Pacers, Danny Granger has been bought out by the 76ers.


ESPN.com reported Tuesday night that the Spurs and Granger share a mutual interest, but sources said Wednesday that the Clippers -- having lost starting shooting guard J.J. Re for long stretches this season due to a variety of injuries -- have the advantage of more playing time to offer.

Sources say teams interested in Granger have been consistently told in recent days that the free agent-to-be -- if he were to surrender his Larry Bird rights by securing his release from the Sixers -- would be looking for a new team that could not only offer a shot at a championship but also offer guaranteed playing time.

ESPN.com reported Tuesday that the Clippers and Spurs were widely regarded as the two strongest contenders to land Granger, with the Miami Heat expected to focus its efforts on clinching a deal with former Heat draftee Caron Butler, whose buyout from the Milwaukee Bucks, sources said, was also progressing toward completion Wednesday.

Any player who has appeared in a regular-season game this season must be waived by Saturday at midnight, according to league rules, to remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with another team.

Philadelphia's prime interest in dealing for Granger and his $14 million expiring contract was the second-round pick it acquired from the Pacers. The Sixers acquired five second-rounders last week through its various deals before the deadline.

Said Sixers general manager Sam Hinkie in a statement: "His accomplishments and accolades to this point of his NBA career more than speak for themselves, so I would like to express that I have a great deal of respect for Danny Granger as a person. The manner with which he carried himself throughout this process was professional, courteous and respectful, and speaks volumes about his character."

"Following the completion of the trade on Thursday night, Danny traveled to Philadelphia and we had an opportunity to meet with him here. These were in addition to the open lines of communication with his agent Aaron Mintz and CAA while we worked through the next steps."

"Given Danny's future goals and his desire to pursue them, we worked to fulfill his requests and have come to a resolution that we feel is mutually beneficial to both Danny and our organization.We wish Danny the best in the next phase of his career."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...-danny-granger

[jkid12456]

granger with patty comin off the bench is deadly!

[xmas1997]

He's not going to choose the Spurs IMHO.

[Bruno]

We'll see where Granger go. I'm not that interested in endless speculation.

It's kinda sad to see Spurs not having filled what RC called a "hole" last July despite an offseason and a trade deadline. Counting on a bought out player picking Spurs just sounds random and amateurish.

[rick1991]

Are teams allowed to speak to Granger before he clears waivers?

[cd021]

If I were Granger, The fact that the Clippers front court depth is this poor this late in the season ;with Jamison Mullins both gone, Dudley apparently on the fringes of the rotation, Barnes logging only 26mpg and a rookie in Bollock rounding out their SF core. Granger hasn't played consistently in two seasons and they are pitching to him that he can come over and start? If he's lookin for playing time he can find it there but as far as a deep playoff run, I wouldn't consider it likely.

They caught a big break with Big Baby being brought out and coming to L.A. Truth be told the only teams that they could realistically beat are Dallas and possibly Phoenix. The rest are at best 50/50.

[xmas1997]

If he were coming here we would have heard he had decided that for sure by now.
But we've heard only that the Clips were interested, and then that they were ahead.
What does that tell you?

[TheWriter]

If he were coming here we would have heard he had decided that for sure by now.
But we've heard only that the Clips were interested, and then that they were ahead.
What does that tell you?

What? There have been back and forth reports the last two days. On Monday it was reported five teams were in contention. Yesterday, the Spurs were Danny's top choice. Today is a new report that says LA is the frontrunner with the Spurs being a serious candidate. Tomorrow will be another report and Friday there will be even more widespread speculation before he announces his choice.

[pgardn]

I wonder if Granger takes a look at another hole filler, Marco, and sees how it is possible to flourish on an older team with many aches and pains.

California wins most likely.

I would love to have him just to see if we could actually make him work in a small time frame.