I've made my point very well in this thread. Now I hear pundits saying the same things (Warriors should play inside out, not rely on jump shooting, Curry is a good shooter but forces things and takes too many contested threes).
All you've done here is make benign quips that, if compiled into one summary, wouldn't make a discernible point.
no. all you've proven is that you can copy-paste espn.com box scores and highlight things in red when its convenient. either than or your typical useless banters about grammar/semantics that you were going off with to dodge simple questions for 2 pages
Golden State Warriors STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS Andre Iguodala, SF 21 1-8 0-2 3-4 1 6 7 4 1 0 1 2 +1 5 Andrew Bogut, C 23 4-5 0-0 0-0 1 5 6 0 0 1 4 4 +2 8 Jermaine O'Neal, C 16 4-5 0-0 1-2 2 3 5 0 0 1 0 4 -10 9 Stephen Curry, PG 28
2-10 1-5 0-0 0 3 3 5 0 0 5 0 -12 5 Klay Thompson, SG 24 3-8 2-4 0-0 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 2 -18 8 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS David Lee, PF 21 4-11 0-0 3-5 2 4 6 0 2 2 2 2 -19 11 Hilton Armstrong, PF 7 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 +8 0 Marreese Speights, PF 9 2-6 0-1 2-2 0 4 4 0 0 1 0 2 +8 6 Harrison Barnes, SF 24 3-10 1-4 4-4 1 1 2 2 0 1 1 1 -2 11 Draymond Green, SF 15 0-5 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 4 -20 0 Steve Blake, PG 27 2-5 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 4 -21 4 Jordan Crawford, SG 25 5-10 1-3 5-5 0 2 2 2 0 0 3 2 -17 16 Nemanja Nedovic, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 30-84 5-21 18-22 9 32 41 17 6 7 16 27 83 35.7% 23.8% 81.8%
Just saying.
This was the previous game. The press said he had an "off game". Let's see how they spin tonight's performance. I didn't think this performance was that bad.
Golden State Warriors STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS Andre Iguodala, SF 27 2-10 0-3 0-0 1 1 2 2 0 1 2 0 -4 4 Andrew Bogut, C 29 1-5 0-0 2-4 2 5 7 4 1 1 1 6 -5 4 Jermaine O'Neal, C 27 6-8 0-0 4-6 2 8 10 2 0 3 0 4 +4 16 Stephen Curry, PG 36 6-15
3-9 4-5 3 5 8 9 0 0 4 0 -2 19 Klay Thompson, SG 29 8-12 2-3 1-1 0 3 3 2 0 0 3 1 -7 19 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS Marreese Speights, PF 8 1-4 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 +6 4 Harrison Barnes, SF 28 4-8 2-3 1-2 2 3 5 4 0 1 0 2 +17 11 Draymond Green, SF 20 3-4 0-0 0-0 1 4 5 1 2 1 1 4 +8 6 Steve Blake, PG 17 2-5 2-5 0-0 0 1 1 2 0 0 2 1 +17 6 Jordan Crawford, SG 18 5-11 4-8 1-2 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 +6 15 Hilton Armstrong, PF DNP COACH'S DECISION Nemanja Nedovic, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 38-82 13-31 15-22 11 33 44 27 3 7 13 19 104 46.3% 41.9% 68.2%
Golden State Warriors STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS Andre Iguodala, SF 44 4-8 0-3 0-0 1 10 11 6 4 1 0 4 +8 8 Draymond Green, SF 38
5-16 0-2 8-10 4 6 10 2 3 0 0 4 +14 18 Jermaine O'Neal, C 34
10-13 0-0 3-3 5 8 13 0 0 0 3 0 +12 23 Stephen Curry, PG 32
7-13 3-4 0-0 0 5 5 8 2 0 2 2 +12 17 Klay Thompson, SG 30 3-10 0-2 0-0 0 6 6 3 2 1 1 5 +19 6 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS Marreese Speights, PF 8 3-4 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 0 0 2 1 1 -2 6 Harrison Barnes, SF 20 1-7 0-1 1-2 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 4 -12 3 Steve Blake, PG 16 2-4 2-3 0-0 0 1 1 5 1 0 0 1 -7 6 Jordan Crawford, SG 19 2-10 1-5 1-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 2 1 -9 6 David Lee, PF DNP STOMACH ILLNESS Hilton Armstrong, PF DNP COACH'S DECISION Nemanja Nedovic, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 37-85 6-20 13-17 12 38 50 26 12 4 10 22 93
The presser says Steph and Green pushed the Warriors to the win. JO looks like he did more. Why no love?
what about his performance in the OT win against Houston?
has had some off shooting nights, particularly against the Bulls yesterday. but going 2-10 or even 6-15 doesn't really scream "chucker" like OP indicates, considering they went along with 5 and 9 assists, respectively. a chucker would take too many shots, and too many bad shots to the detriment of his team. a team's #1 option taking 10 or 15 shots isn't exactly shooting them out of a game.
he has by in large been playing better since his poor start to the year, and has his shooting figures up to more respectable levels (46% from the field, over 41% from 3). the main concern with Curry at the moment is his turnovers, not his chucking
I've already shown you that volume shooting and chucking are two different things.
this is the crux of your argument yet they are 14-7 this year when Curry shoots 40% from the field or worse
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SPLITS GP MPG FG% RPG APG BLKPG STPG PFPG PPG Last 10 Games 10 35.8 .497 3.7 8.0 0.0 0.8 2.2 21.0 February 10 35.9 .497 3.7 8.0 0.0 0.8 2.2 21.0 In Wins 35 36.3 .463 4.7 9.1 0.3 1.8 2.5 22.0 In Losses 20 39.2 .455 3.7 8.4 0.1 1.4 2.9 27.1
Total 3-point Field Goals Attempted Leaders - All Players
PER GAME TOTAL ADJ RK PLAYER TEAM GP PPG 3PM 3PA 3PM 3PA 3P% 2PM 2PA 2P% PPS FG% 1 Stephen Curry, PG GS 55 23.8 3.3 8 184 442 .416 269 543 .495 1.33 .553 2 Damian Lillard, PG POR 58 21.2 2.8 7 163 399 .409 241 536 .450 1.32 .519 3 Klay Thompson, SG GS 58 17.8 2.7 7 157 388 .405 230 509 .452 1.15 .519 4 Jamal Crawford, SG LAC 60 19.0 2.4 6 142 385 .369 235 508 .463 1.27 .502 5 Paul George, SF IND 56 22.7 2.4 6 136 358 .380 294 620 .474 1.30 .509 6 Wesley Matthews, SG POR 58 16.6 2.5 6 145 357 .406 179 366 .489 1.33 .548 7 Gerald Green, SG PHX 57 14.9 2.3 6 133 354 .376 167 326 .512 1.25 .539 8 Kyle Lowry, PG TOR 57 16.9 2.4 6 134 352 .381 176 378 .466 1.32 .516 9 Kevin Love, PF MIN 54 26.6 2.4 6 130 342 .380 334 659 .507 1.43 .528 10 Jameer Nelson, PG ORL 55 12.4 2.1 6 117 325 .360 126 290 .434 1.11 .490
yeah that 0.8% difference and 0.7 assists is the game changer
The Doctor! doing work in this thread, tbh
^hasn't he routinely said he isn't a doctor?
Klay Thompson's splits:
In wins 35 36.0 7.0-15.7 .448 2.9-6.7 .438 1.8-2.2 .795 0.5 2.8 3.3 2.6 0.5 1.1 2.6 1.6 18.8 In losses 23 38.5 6.1-15.1 .405 2.3-6.7 .353 1.7-2.2 .800 0.4 2.3 2.7 2.2 0.5 1.0 3.4 2.0 16.
David Lee's:
In wins 31 34.1 8.3-15.2 .545 0.0-0.0 .000 3.4-4.0 .847 2.8 7.2 10.1 2.5 0.5 0.7 2.7 2.4 19.9 In losses 22 34.1 6.5-14.1 .465 0.0-0.0 .000 4.4-5.9 .746 2.7 6.7 9.4 1.6 0.3 0.6 3.3 2.2 17.5
Last edited by spurraider21; 02-27-2014 at 05:56 PM.
those differences are much more significant than any of Curry's splits. those lower FG% numbers might explain Curry's mild assist decrease you pointed out
Any team trying to build a contender around Curry as a first option is doomed to fail. The guy is a 3rd fiddle at best.
name the legit first options that you can build a contender around in today's NBA
It's not that he takes a lot of shots, but that his shots are all outside the arc.
The fact that in games he loses he scores more points and had fewer assists supports my assertion that his chucking takes the rest of the team out of the game.
Evidence that the team's successes and failures follow the rest of the team's offensive performance, not Stephs.
low assist numbers don't necessarily mean the PG is unwilling to pass imho. It's also possible that his teammates couldn't hit their shots.
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