NBA: Lebron's rookie stats vs Kirby's

[lefty]

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2003-04	19	CLE	NBA	SG	79	79	39.5	7.9	18.9	.417	0.8	2.7	.290	7.1	16.1	.438	4.4	5.8	.754	1.3	4.2	5.5	5.9	1.6	0.7	3.5	1.9	20.9

And Kirby :

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1996-97	18	LAL	NBA	SG	71	6	15.5	2.5	5.9	.417	0.7	1.9	.375	1.8	4.0	.437	1.9	2.3	.819	0.7	1.2	1.9	1.3	0.7	0.3	1.6	1.4	7.6

[Thread]

This would be a moot point had you held your water last June. Instead, you disgraced yourself.

[irishock]

It's actually pretty close per36

[lefty]

This would be a moot point had you held your water last June. Instead, you disgraced yourself.

aha

[lefty]

It's actually pretty close per36

if Kobe was as good he would have played more minutes

no excuse

[Clipper Nation]

O'Neal was wary of Bryant, as a rookie, boasting that he would lead the Lakers in scoring and be the best player in the league.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq%E2%80%93Kobe_feud

End result: only playing 15 minutes a game, only 7 points per game

[lefty]

End result: only playing 15 minutes a game, only 7 points per game

[superjames1992]

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2003-04	19	CLE	NBA	SG	79	79	39.5	7.9	18.9	.417	0.8	2.7	.290	7.1	16.1	.438	4.4	5.8	.754	1.3	4.2	5.5	5.9	1.6	0.7	3.5	1.9	20.9

And Kirby :

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1996-97	18	LAL	NBA	SG	71	6	15.5	2.5	5.9	.417	0.7	1.9	.375	1.8	4.0	.437	1.9	2.3	.819	0.7	1.2	1.9	1.3	0.7	0.3	1.6	1.4	7.6

Pretty close, tbh. LeRoid just played for a terrible team that let him chuck up a ton of shots per night at a low percentage. Kirby wouldn't get that privilege until Alpha Shaq left in the mid-2000s.

[lefty]

Pretty close, tbh. LeRoid just played for a terrible team that let him chuck up a ton of shots per night at a low percentage. Kirby wouldn't get that privilege until Alpha Shaq left in the mid-2000s.

Which proves that Lebron is an Alpha and Kirby is not

[Arnold Toht]

Victims of 6.

[lefty]

Victims of 6.

Victims of lebron

The King !

[JohnnyMax]

[MeloHype]

[Thebesteva]

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
2003-04	19	CLE	NBA	SG	79	79	39.5	7.9	18.9	.417	0.8	2.7	.290	7.1	16.1	.438	4.4	5.8	.754	1.3	4.2	5.5	5.9	1.6	0.7	3.5	1.9	20.9

And Kirby :

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1996-97	18	LAL	NBA	SG	71	6	15.5	2.5	5.9	.417	0.7	1.9	.375	1.8	4.0	.437	1.9	2.3	.819	0.7	1.2	1.9	1.3	0.7	0.3	1.6	1.4	7.6

In that lies the ultimate flaw of anti Kobe arguments. Lebron started 79 games in his rookie year as Kobe started only 6 games. Kobe went to a storied franchise who wanted to slowly develop his skills and build around Shaq, while Lebron went to a desperate franchise that was begging for him to stay

[ElNono]

In that lies the ultimate flaw of anti Kobe arguments. Lebron started 79 games in his rookie year as Kobe started only 6 games. Kobe went to a storied franchise who wanted to slowly develop his skills and build around Shaq, while Lebron went to a desperate franchise that was begging for him to stay

Actually, Kirby went to a desperate franchise that was begging for him to stay too...

[ElNono]

[TDMVPDPOY]

that deflecting aura around Thread, thats fk hax cheat

[Thebesteva]

Actually, Kirby went to a desperate franchise that was begging for him to stay too...

Not in 1996. Thats now with Fredo running the franchise into the ground. Back when Dr. Buss was running it, the franchise was also in bad shape after Magic left but he kept his composure until he finally coughed up big bucks for Phil

[ElNono]

Not in 1996. Thats now with Fredo running the franchise into the ground. Back when Dr. Buss was running it, the franchise was also in bad shape after Magic left but he kept his composure until he finally coughed up big bucks for Phil

I thought the picture would clue you in...

[Thebesteva]

I thought the picture would clue you in...

Kobe was dying to go to the Lakers. In fact, the criticism of him back then was he 'bullied' his way to the Lakers so he can be groomed by the best franchise in the NBA.

[ElNono]

Kobe was dying to go to the Lakers. In fact, the criticism of him back then was he 'bullied' his way to the Lakers so he can be groomed by the best franchise in the NBA.

But that's the point. Cobie "went" to the Hornets via the draft, which was a desperate franchise who was begging him to stay... we all know he threw a fit to end up with the Lakeshow...

[Rogue]

The Great Satan was drafted #1 overall and was instantly granted a starting spot on the Cavs squad, while God was drafted #13 and was basically a bench player throughout his first two seasons. Not even comparable imho

[Thread]

Victims of 6.

Arn

[Thread]

But that's the point. Cobie "went" to the Hornets via the draft, which was a desperate franchise who was begging him to stay... we all know he threw a fit to end up with the Lakeshow...

True. He & his father had taken that "fit" --- had exercised their franchise together. I don't blame them. It's not personal. It's business. Boston got Bird via Stern enabling the protocol. I understood. "He was made for the Celtics." I took no offense, never held it against them as they tortured me & mine. When we exacted our vengeance I never held that same protocol as a firing point. It wasn't.

You got your Duncan thru human machination. Others have lodged the asterisk. I have not.

[Bill_Brasky]

Pretty close, tbh. LeRoid just played for a terrible team that let him chuck up a ton of shots per night at a low percentage. Kirby wouldn't get that privilege until Alpha Shaq left in the mid-2000s.

At which point he promptly missed the playoffs.