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    As Longman explains, a lot of the “Texas Miracle” talk is based on simple misinformation. For one thing, a big part of Texas’ current stretch of growth is based on the same old boom-and-bust economics of the oil and gas industry that has always blessed and cursed the state, not anything attributable to state policies.

    Outside the energy sector, are Americans really “voting with their feet” for the governing policies of Rick Perry by moving to the L??one Star State in vast numbers? Not exactly:

    [A]ccording to Census Bureau data, 441,682 native-born Americans moved to Texas from other states between 2010 and 2011. Sounds like a lot. But moving (fleeing?) in the opposite direction were 358,048 other native-born Americans leaving Texas behind. That means that the net domestic migration of native-born Americans to Texas came to just 83,634, which in a nation of 315 million isn’t even background noise….

    Net domestic migration to Texas peaked after Hurricane Katrina devastated Louisiana and Mississippi, and has been falling off ever since.

    Moreover, those supposedly fleeing to refuge to Texas from godless socialist places like California aren’t actually experiencing relief from higher taxes, unless they are very wealthy:

    Texas has sales and property taxes that make its overall burden of taxation on low-wage families much heavier than the national average, while the state also taxes the middle class at rates as high or higher than in California. For instance, non-elderly Californians with family income in the middle 20 percent of the income distribution pay combined state and local taxes amounting to 8.2 percent of their income, according to the Ins ute on Taxation and Economic Policy; by contrast, their counterparts in Texas pay 8.6 percent.

    And unlike in California, middle-class families in Texas don’t get the advantage of having rich people share equally in the cost of providing government services. The top 1 percent in Texas have an effective tax rate of just 3.2 percent. That’s roughly two-fifths the rate that’s borne by the middle class, and just a quarter the rate paid by all those low-wage “takers” at the bottom 20 percent of the family income distribution. This Robin-Hood-in-reverse system gives Texas the fifth-most-regressive tax structure in the nation.

    Middle- and lower-income Texans in effect make up for the taxes the rich don’t pay in Texas by making do with fewer government services, such as by accepting a K-12 public school system that ranks behind forty-one other states, including Alabama, in spending per student.

    Even businesses (if they aren’t large enough to feed from the state’s various corporate welfare troughs) don’t necessarily find Texas hospitable:

    The business case for Texas does not speak for itself. It may be a great place to be a big oil or petrochemical company, or a politically favored large corporation able to wring out tax concessions. Its state laws are also hostile to unions, and its wage levels are generally lower than in much of the rest of the country. But for the vast majority of businesses, which are small and not politically connected, Texas doesn’t offer any tax advantages and is in many ways a harder place to do business. This is consistent with Census Bureau data showing that a smaller share of people in Texas own their own business than in all but four other states.

    All in all, economic conditions in Texas are hardly miraculous:

    The state may offer low housing prices compared to California and an unemployment rate below the national average, but it also has low rates of economic mobility, minimal public services, and, unless you are rich, taxes that are as high or higher than most anywhere else in America. And worse, despite all the oil money sloshing around, Texas is no longer gaining on the richest states in its per capita income, but rather getting comparatively poorer and poorer.

    http://www.alternet.org/why-texas-ec...tter965373&t=2

    So the TX Repugs have been bull ting/lying to everybody all along?



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    lol alternet.
    cribs article from the progressive echo chamber.
    Gets destroyed in the comment section of the source:

    Regarding net domestic migration, you have to look at the long term trends, not just a one or two year snapshot. The Great Recession put many homeowners underwater and made it impossible for people to move, especially in the time period you cited. Rather, look at the prior decade. You'll see that California had a net domestic out migration of 2 million, the largest flow to Texas, while Texas had a net in migration of 800,000, the plurality being from California. Those numbers are significant.

    As for per capita income, it's significantly tied to race and ethnicity. Vermont is monochromatic. Houston, in 2013, displaced New York as America's most diverse city. Maryland, of course, is a federal colony, its tiny economy dwarfed by the federal behemoth that that grown up on its doorstep and dumped billions of dollars into its economy. That said, Maryland's job growth has been anemic. Over a recent time period, Maryland gained 33,500 government jobs, while simultaneously losing 22,900 private-sector jobs. By comparison, Texas added 958,700 jobs—or 90 times more jobs than Maryland.

    Lastly, you ignore completely the cost of living and its effect on purchasing power. New York's cost of living is about 40 percent higher than Texas' -- that has a huge impact on working families.

    For this reason, the U.S. Census, in its new Supplemental Measure of Poverty which takes into account regional cost of living, the value of government benefits, and taxes, calculates California as having the nation's highest poverty rate -- proportionately 45 percent more people in poverty per capita than in Texas, which, at 16.4 percent, is within the margin of error of the national average of 16 percent.

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    TX...who knew you could save money by cutting 6 billion dollars from education...

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    TX...who knew you could save money by cutting 6 billion dollars from education...
    Surprised they stopped at 6. You can build a ton of toll roads with that stack.

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    No, they should have just taken that cash and built a Pharma lab to make lethal injection drugs.

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    I see license plates from all over. I guess they're coming here for the BS.

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    I see license plates from all over. I guess they're coming here for the BS.
    yep, Darrin's anecdote trumps any statistics, as always.

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    to pile on, TX ranks near the national bottom in K12 spending per student, while tax expenditures for business run about $20B/year.

    Keeping TX kids dumb and "Christian" keeps them voting Repug.

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    If only we spent more on education

    http://www.edudemic.com/how-12-count...-a-difference/

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    If K12 paid enough to attract, and retain, quality (highly educated) teachers, and enough was spent to keep class size small, there would be a difference.

    Like there are ROTC full scholarships in return for x years of post-college service, the same should be available for K12 teachers.

    Finland has a huge applicant:teacher ratio (aka HIGH demand by applicants for limited jobs) and gets fantastic, best-in-world results.

    $100Bs of USA "education" expenses get wasted on non-academic stuff like sports teams, extra-curriculars, etc, whereas in Western Europe, K12, 8-12, is strictly academic.

    I can't find it, but I bet the edudemic.com org, which seems to be site dedicated to trashing public education, is financed, directed by VRWC, corporate funds.

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    to pile on, TX ranks near the national bottom in K12 spending per student, while tax expenditures for business run about $20B/year.

    Keeping TX kids dumb and "Christian" keeps them voting Repug.
    Probably about as accurate as that alternet (lol) article you posted.

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    Edudemic is a tech blog that posts articles and studies that connect tech to the clasroom. Its not a VRWC funded site that destroys public education. . :facepalm

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    Probably about as accurate as that alternet (lol) article you posted.
    so the miraculous TX has the same poverty rate as US avg? miraculous?

    TX has the highest rate of uninsured residents in USA. miraculous?

    TX spending/student is near the USA bottom. miraculous?

    hyper-sunny TX also has a ty record in rooftop solar

    "But not so in Texas, where despite recent growth in hot beds like Austin and San Antonio, the technology remains largely remains on the fringe.

    According to the Solar Energy Industries Association, Texas’ 107.5 megawatts of solar capacity is one of the lowest in the nation when sorted by population — Arizona’s per capita rate is estimated to be more than 30 times higher"

    http://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/20130527-despite-growth-texas-lags-far-behind-on-solar-energy.ece

    My solar installer company said that SA has only about 1000 roof top solar installations, so how is SA a "hot bed". TX rooftop solar behind so far behind is directly caused by Repug govt policies enriching/protecting centralized energy suppliers. AZ has 30x TX installations, and that's with AZ power company trying to kill solar.





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    Predictable goal post move. Back to your prgressive echo chamber.
    lol alternet.

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    Finland has a huge applicant:teacher ratio (aka HIGH demand by applicants for limited jobs) and gets fantastic, best-in-world results.
    Finland is ethnically genous, try again.

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    Finland is ethnically genous, try again.
    so you think it's mostly, or only black or brown people who drop out of HS or leave functionally illiterate and in need of a couple year of remedial work to get them up to college freshman level?

    Finland also has strong social safety net so poverty isn't the excruciating, immobilizing disaster it is in USA.

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    so you think it's mostly, or only black or brown people who drop out of HS or leave functionally illiterate and in need of a couple year of remedial work to get them up to college freshman level?

    Finland also has strong social safety net so poverty isn't the excruciating, immobilizing disaster it is in USA.
    Black, brown, and red. I don't think I know.

    http://www.ed.gov/blog/2013/01/high-...three-decades/

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    so you think it's mostly, or only black or brown people who drop out of HS or leave functionally illiterate and in need of a couple year of remedial work to get them up to college freshman level?

    Finland also has strong social safety net so poverty isn't the excruciating, immobilizing disaster it is in USA.
    Texas has a population 5× that of Finland. lol apples vs parachute pants.

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    Drop out % rate by race:

    white 2.3
    black 5.5
    brown 5.0
    red 6.7
    yellow 1.9


    edit: red 6.7
    Last edited by TSA; 03-04-2014 at 03:02 PM.

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    Drop out % rate by race:

    white 2.3
    black 5.5
    brown 5.0
    red 6.7
    yellow 1.9


    edit: red 6.7
    Give me that same breakdown based on household income levels/socioeconomic divide and remove race from the mix. What do you think it would look like?
    Last edited by Th'Pusher; 03-04-2014 at 08:32 PM.

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    so people aren't moving to texas? thank goodness.

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    spend more money to fix things!

    http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct...ipads-20131002

    a chicken in every pot, and an ipad in every student's hands

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    so the miraculous TX has the same poverty rate as US avg? miraculous?

    TX has the highest rate of uninsured residents in USA. miraculous?

    TX spending/student is near the USA bottom. miraculous?

    hyper-sunny TX also has a ty record
    So, your cut and paste job was bull . Not miraculous....just par for the course. lol alternet..
    We are the largest producer of wind energy in the nation. Funny how you never seem to mention that.

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    Give me that same breakdown based on household income levels/socioeconomic divide and remove race from the mix. What do you think it would look like?
    I have no desire to tbh, I was simply responding to boutons ridiculous comparison of the US to Finland.

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    I have no desire to tbh, I was simply responding to boutons ridiculous comparison of the US to Finland.
    Based solely on race. Are there no other factors you think need to be considered?

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