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    It's not the having the Ipad that is the problem....its that the state has no policies and limited resources for teachers to learn to use the IPads successfully in the classroom...so studies show that simply putting Ipads in classroom does not increase students scores on standardized tests...
    The ipad is a stupid idea. Tablets are useful for four things:

    1. Browsing the web
    2. Social networking
    3. Playing games
    4. Reading ebooks

    And 4 really only applies for pirated ebooks since legal ebooks usually aren't significantly cheaper than paper books. You can't write a research paper on an ipad. You can't program on an ipad. Why blow $678 a student on a toy instead of dropping, say $450 on a laptop that the student could actually do work on?

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    The right move is to stop agreeing to such lucrative contracts.
    What lucrative contracts? Teachers don't get rich by teaching...

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    And 4 really only applies for pirated ebooks since legal ebooks usually aren't significantly cheaper than paper books. You can't write a research paper on an ipad. You can't program on an ipad. Why blow $678 a student on a toy instead of dropping, say $450 on a laptop that the student could actually do work on?
    Your absolutely right Bum...I've been making this same argument to school districts for years...but for some reason, school districts think that Ipads are the ...

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    I'm speaking from a California perspective, so my apologies if I am misspeaking. It should also be noted that Texas teachers who do not receive social security are also not paying into it. Perhaps that can be reformed. I'm not against education funding . i also don't think increasing the amount on the check is going to fix education, and shouldn't be the first step in doing so

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    There is some awfully bad info that people want to believe...

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    I'm speaking from a California perspective, so my apologies if I am misspeaking. It should also be noted that Texas teachers who do not receive social security are also not paying into it. Perhaps that can be reformed. I'm not against education funding . i also don't think increasing the amount on the check is going to fix education, and shouldn't be the first step in doing so
    Writing more checks for more teachers is a must in this State.
    This is not California...

    Uhhh Texas teachers often do pay into SS, before they decide to become teachers. And the SS payment gets greatly reduced in most cases by Texas law.
    And they do pay into Medicare.

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    I'm speaking from a California perspective, so my apologies if I am misspeaking. It should also be noted that Texas teachers who do not receive social security are also not paying into it. Perhaps that can be reformed. I'm not against education funding . i also don't think increasing the amount on the check is going to fix education, and shouldn't be the first step in doing so
    Your right on one account....the way money is spent in districts needs to be reformed and it can be used much more efficiently, but that reform has to come from the top, not the bottom...let's let experience teachers make education policies and not politicians, like they do in successful countries rich and poor around the word...

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    Writing more checks for more teachers is a must in this State.
    This is not California...
    Teacher starting pay is about 45K in most districts, that's not the problem...the problem is that 10 years later, that same more-experienced teacher is still only making less than 50K, twenty years later less than 55K....would you stay in a professional business were the money is so pitiful in your more experience years?

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    Teacher starting pay is about 45K in most districts, that's not the problem...the problem is that 10 years later, that same more-experienced teacher is still only making less than 50K, twenty years later less than 55K....would you stay in a professional business were the money is so pitiful in your more experience years?
    Blame the unions for that. Good an bad teachers both are on the same pay scale.

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    Teacher starting pay is about 45K in most districts, that's not the problem...the problem is that 10 years later, that same more-experienced teacher is still only making less than 50K, twenty years later less than 55K....would you stay in a professional business were the money is so pitiful in your more experience years?
    I did not say it's the problem.

    The problem is more teachers. People don't stay teachers. Most are gone after 3 years. The positions don't get refilled because fast growing districts like NISD can't hire them.

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    Blame the unions for that. Good an bad teachers both are on the same pay scale.
    The Teachers Associations in Texas are extraordinarily weak.
    They have never and will not strike. It's illegal.
    They are not true unions.

    Jesus, the misunderstanding of education in Texas is rampant.

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    Blame the unions for that. Good an bad teachers both are on the same pay scale.
    I support an incentive system that rewards good teachers with bonuses...but the system of measurement has to come over a period of time not just in one year...any teacher can have a bad year or two because of bad students not bad teaching...

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    The Teachers Associations in Texas are extraordinarily weak.
    They have never and will not strike. It's illegal.
    They are not true unions.

    Jesus, the misunderstanding of education in Texas is rampant.
    Regardless, do you think it's correct to pay them all, good and bad, on the same pay scale based on seniority?

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    The Teachers Associations in Texas are extraordinarily weak.
    They have never and will not strike. It's illegal.
    They are not true unions.

    Jesus, the misunderstanding of education in Texas is rampant.
    Well, he's not in Texas, but yeah, the misinformation in education policy is horrible...much easier to blame teachers...

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    Good an bad teachers both are on the same pay scale.
    This is not true either.
    Teachers were rated and those considered exemplary got as much as 3000 dollars more a year. But the State took the funding away. Some teachers got grandfathered but most of them are retired. Now there is no difference.

    Christ it continues... This is seriously bad stuff. The uninformed just typing off the cuff.

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    Regardless, do you think it's correct to pay them all, good and bad, on the same pay scale based on seniority?
    Most companies do that....your living back in the 80's...today, teachers are evaluated every year and if they are ineffective in the classroomthey are not resigned to a new contract...

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    This is not true either.
    Teachers were rated and those considered exemplary got as much as 3000 dollars more a year. But the State took the funding away. Some teachers got grandfathered but most of them are retired. Now there is no difference.

    Christ it continues... This is seriously bad stuff. The uninformed just typing off the cuff.
    You disagree then you agree...

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    So your gonna take money from retired teachers to fund under-funded schools? Your a moron.
    Some nice irony there.

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    Some nice irony there.
    grammar check ....

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    You disagree then you agree...
    No.

    You are just wrong. There were incentives. Now they are gone.
    And there never have been Real Unions in Texas.

    What about this do you not understand?

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    I think it'd behoove you to use proper English when waxing poetic about education reform. That is unless you're trying to performatively make your point.

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    I think it'd behoove you to use proper English when waxing poetic about education reform. That is unless you're trying to performatively make your point.
    I'm in my PJs too and not in a suit....what you got on education?

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    No.

    You are just wrong. There were incentives. Now they are gone.
    And there never have been Real Unions in Texas.

    What about this do you not understand?
    You are right in that I don't know the specifics. However, every time I have seen a state attempt to add merit pay to teachers, it was the unions that caused it to never happen. You see the same thing in other industries.

    Is merit pay available now, or just the grandfathered teachers?

    Why did it stop? I'll bet if you research the facts, you find the unions stopped it...

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    What do I have on education?

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    What about this do you not understand?
    ....the part that starts with not blaming the teachers and unions



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