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  1. 03-05-2014 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    Precisely! He didn't mention Kobe...in fact he never has when Kobe has gone off the many times he scored 60...that speaks volumes numnuts
    He didn't mention Melo and T-Mac either, you think he admires them?

    Your lack of logic never seems to astound me.
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  2. 03-05-2014 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpurSwag
    Kobe is an all time great, no doubt, but my greatest argument against him is how can you value a player so highly when it has almost been proven at times that his teammates play better without him and they enjoy the game more with him out. That makes no sense. He is a top 15 player of all time, maybe top 10, while also being the most overrated basketball player to ever live.
    this is what your teammates playing better without you gets you:

    Kobe 5
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  3. 03-05-2014 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    and here is the Mega Burst...as I've said it's all about Primes..these guys see Lebron in his prime and they also witnessed Kobe in his...and they all come back to the same got dam conclusion that I do..it's simple for these guys they played the game and they know....

    Michael (New York)

    , Wilkins already said Lebron has taken over the le of the best all around player.

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/49529
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  4. 03-05-2014 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    He didn't mention Melo and T-Mac either, you think he admires them?

    Your lack of logic never seems to astound me.
    you're just mad I embarrased you and proved you had nothing but ty points and didn't know what the you were talking about...plus your still fuming over 6...go eat and he happy
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  5. 03-05-2014 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    Lebron hasn't changed a got dam thing with regards to the NBA...Kobe is the leader of billion Chinese people, Kobe has the European Market, and he just tapped into the Middle East...you're a gotdam moron if you think Lebron has changed the game...

    nikka couldn't even get a to eat a cheeseburger and fries with him in London...get the outta here you simp
    In other news, Kobe had great success with a shower in Colorado.
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  6. 03-05-2014 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by resistanze
    Indeed, flopping nowadays can be silly. Would love stiffer penalties for it.

    But on the flipside what does it say about a league (80s) where you need to clothesline dudes while defending is considering 'gritty' and 'hard-nosed'?
    The 2004 Pistons, 1999 Spurs, 2008 Celtics, 2011 Bulls, 2013 Pacers are eons better defensively than any team in Nique's er    a.

    No doubt about that. Today's defense is miles ahead better than any we've seen from the 80's and 90's team with the exception of 96 Sonics and Bulls who were different animals in their days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    you're just mad I embarrased you and proved you had nothing but ty points and didn't know what the you were talking about...plus your still fuming over 6...go eat and he happy
    Temper temper ...

    so ... wait, me pointing out that Wilkins didn't mention Kobe in a thread created by you saying Wilkins preferred Kobe over Lebron is you embarrassing me? Pray tell, how so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrengthAndHonor
    No doubt about that. Today's defense is miles ahead better than any we've seen from the 80's and 90's team with the exception of 96 Sonics and Bulls who were different animals in their days.
    you're crazy... s don't play defense these days...wtf you smoking...
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    Chris Paul is too short to play D...and all Lebron does is try to run you down from behind...he tried to do that to Kobe in the ASG and got his ass dunked on..
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    the only nikka that tries to play D..and shows any real effort is Russell Westbrook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    you're crazy... s don't play defense these days...wtf you smoking...
    This year? Yeah, its been awful, but the teams resistanze highlighted were defensive monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Temper temper ...

    so ... wait, me pointing out that Wilkins didn't mention Kobe in a thread created by you saying Wilkins preferred Kobe over Lebron is you embarrassing me? Pray tell, how so?
    I've already de-balled you....Wilkins thinks Kobe is the better prime player...and yes prefers Kobe...Larry Bird just flat out said he'd rather play with Kobe...
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    The Pistons were ok...everyone else on his list is bull ...The Celtics only rang in 2008 because Bynum and Ariza was hurt....them s wasn't all that tbh...they had good wing defenders on Kobe that was it
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  14. 03-05-2014 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    I've already de-balled you....Wilkins thinks Kobe is the better prime player...and yes prefers Kobe...Larry Bird just flat out said he'd rather play with Kobe...
    When did he say he prefers Kobe. He said during Kobe's prime, Kobe was the better player, that's when Lebron was a fourth year player. Lebron has taken over since.

    Bird would rather play with Kobe in order to win games because he knew that in elimination games, the Lakers will get 20+ FTA in the fourth quarter.

    In order to have fun, he'd rather play with Lebron, here is the exact quote:

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba...191427315.html

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    "Well, probably Kobe, because of the fact that ... well, of course he wouldn't have been shooting as much as he does now ... but his desire to win, his dedication, to always get better, uh, and he's just, he's just tough," Bird said. "He's just a tough cat.

    "But, if you want to have fun, like I did with Bill Walton, play with LeBron. It would have probably been more fun to play with LeBron, but if you want to win and win and win, it's Kobe. Not that LeBron's not a winner, just that [Kobe's] mindset is to go into every practice, every game, to get better."
    Notice the follwing:
    1) Bird played with Walton in 86, and annihilated the league that year
    2) Bird appreciates Kobe's hard work based on his limited abilities
    3) Bird explicitly said that Kobe would have to shoot less, which we all know he wouldn't. In other words, Bird can only compare a Kobe that doesn't even exist to a real-life Lebron. Hey, the two are so far apart, it's only fair.
    4) Bird also liked Dennis Johnson's desire to win over Kevin McHale's. But you would be re ed to pick DJ over McHale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    The Pistons were ok...everyone else on his list is bull ...The Celtics only rang in 2008 because Bynum and Ariza was hurt....them s wasn't all that tbh...they had good wing defenders on Kobe that was it
    No team in the 80s would even crack the top 20 defensive sides of all-time....
    Nique is indirectly ting on every player in this era including Kobe, he's just mad right now. He played in an era where zone defense didn't exist and games were 10PPG higher than they are today.
    nique taking about slow rotations and poor closeouts. these words didn't exist during his playing career.
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  16. 03-05-2014 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    When did he say he prefers Kobe. He said during Kobe's prime, Kobe was the better player, that's when Lebron was a fourth year player. Lebron has taken over since.

    Bird would rather play with Kobe in order to win games because he knew that in elimination games, the Lakers will get 20+ FTA in the fourth quarter.

    In order to have fun, he'd rather play with Lebron, here is the exact quote:

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba...191427315.html



    Notice the follwing:
    1) Bird played with Walton in 86, and annihilated the league that year
    2) Bird appreciates Kobe's hard work based on his limited abilities
    3) Bird explicitly said that Kobe would have to shoot less, which we all know he wouldn't. In other words, Bird can only compare a Kobe that doesn't even exist to a real-life Lebron. Hey, the two are so far apart, it's only fair.
    4) Bird also liked Dennis Johnson's desire to win over Kevin McHale's. But you would be re ed to pick DJ over McHale.

    too bad you're too stupid to realize it's all about winning...saying he'd play with Lebron to have fun is PC speak but extremely disrespectful...
    You're uneducated so it stands too reason you don't know how to read between the lines...

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    PS: Nowhere did he say he would like to play with Tammy go figure
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    Quote Originally Posted by resistanze
    No team in the 80s would even crack the top 20 defensive sides of all-time....
    Nique is indirectly ting on every player in this era including Kobe, he's just mad right now. He played in an era where zone defense didn't exist and games were 10PPG higher than they are today.
    nique taking about slow rotations and poor closeouts. these words didn't exist during his playing career.

    get outta here before I drop 81 on your head again
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  18. 03-05-2014 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    Chris Paul is too short to play D...and all Lebron does is try to run you down from behind...he tried to do that to Kobe in the ASG and got his ass dunked on..
    I hate to on Kobe because he's my guy but defensively Lebron would bust his ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    too bad you're too stupid to realize it's all about winning...saying he'd play with Lebron to have fun is PC speak but extremely disrespectful...
    You're uneducated so it stands too reason you don't know how to read between the lines...

    Kobe 5
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    PS: Nowhere did he say he would like to play with Tammy go figure
    Kool redlining these FOB's from SE Asia
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    Superstars are mostly assholes. That's what makes our Spurs so special.
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  21. 03-05-2014 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    too bad you're too stupid to realize it's all about winning...saying he'd play with Lebron to have fun is PC speak but extremely disrespectful...
    You're uneducated so it stands too reason you don't know how to read between the lines...

    Kobe 5
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    Bird spoke extremely highly of Bill Walton, and he said he had fun playing with him, not sure how you can interpret that as any type of disrespect. Those players are willing to pass the ball, and appreciates movement, thus fun. In other words, Bird enjoyed playing with them because of their high basketball IQ. But with regards to Kobe, he knew Kobe had a low bball IQ, and would love to play with him if Kobe would only shoot less, which we all know wouldn't happen. Again, read between the lines, to Bird, it's not even a comparison, it's so far apart that you would have to conceptually change the way Kobe behaves to even have him "probably" prefer playing with him. On the other hand, he appreciates his hard work, which is a back-handed compliment if I have ever seen one.

    Hey, what do you think of your colleague?
    He works hard.

    What do you think of that chick?
    She's a nice person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    PS: Nowhere did he say he would like to play with Tammy go figure
    Because people were asking him specifically about Lebron and Kobe. Unlike you, Bird doesn't have Duncan on his mind 24/7, and research ad nauseum about his gay rumours (all but one coming from his ex-wife).
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  22. 03-05-2014 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by RsxPiimp
    Kool redlining these FOB's from SE Asia
    Wow, you sure shows up a lot whenever Kool is getting neutered. What are you? His removed body parts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrengthAndHonor
    I hate to on Kobe because he's my guy but defensively Lebron would bust his ass.
    Then why has he always been afraid to guard Durant or anyone his size for more than 5 min. is a chicken. Sure he's Quick to try and guard Rose or Parker but he won't step up until someone calls him out.

    Kobe skulls that dude...time and again. Lol
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    Why does Koolaid_Man and RsxPimp never sign in together?
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  25. 03-05-2014 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    Then why has he always been afraid to guard Durant or anyone his size for more than 5 min. is a chicken. Sure he's Quick to try and guard Rose or Parker but he won't step up until someone calls him out.

    Kobe skulls that dude...time and again. Lol
    Say what?

    http://bkref.com/tiny/iGRpx

    Lebron had higher ppg, asts, reb, wins, FG%,stls and blks, the only think Kobe was better at was FT% and TOV.

    Lebron also had the highest scoring game (41 pts on Jan 27, 2008), 2nd highest scoring game (39pts last year), same amount of 30pt games when Kobe was supposed to be the better scorer.

    41.9% FG%! I supposed this would be considered "average" for Kobe.
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