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your "No revenge" bull . This win feels awesome.
I don't think I'll ever get over the hurt of being 26 seconds away from that 5th le, and then losing it. I still can't stand to hear any announcer talk about it. That one hurts more than the .4.
your "No revenge" bull . This win feels awesome.
you guys are just incredibly spoiled then tbh you can't expect to win every, again had you told me in 2010 we could even still be in this position i'd take it happily. If you had told me we would go 1/2 on championships within 3 years of that memphis series i would be ecstatic
Yep. Not even close. I'm more annoyed by the fact that .4 shouldn't even be possible than the fact that it essentially knocked us out of the playoffs.
pretty solid take iyfam
Spurs blow out Heat. Heat still have the trophy. Oh well. The win was nice for a couple of minutes.
The fouling when up is seldom, if ever done, by any coach. I was alluding to Pop taking Duncan and Parker out for 5:30 minutes of the 4th quarter. Spurs were up 10 and playing well. Put em back in up 4 and the Spurs offense never recovered.
Keep one of them in (like he did Game 7) to start the quarter. That le would have been ours.
You are correct.
On the good side .4 and '06 don't hurt as much now.
Doc Rivers does it. But you make a good point. Pop didn't play to win. He played like it was a regular season game and he needed to conserve minutes. There's no problem playing 48 minutes especially if it's the most important game of the season. If the offensive rhythm had never got out of wack it probably doesn't come down to the last 28 seconds. Pop has shown that he has no concept of offensive rhythm and it's an important concept. It's why at times a team can struggle to hit shots (even layups) and why another team can't miss. On defense you want to disrupt the other team's offensive rhythm and offense you want to make sure you establish your own.
Yeah, Manu did great in Game Seven. After his epic collapse in Game Six his encore was to wildly pass the ball in the Fourth Quarter to the Heat and fans in the stands....repeatedly.
cd021 is an idiot.
Without Kawhi, the series doesn't even go to six games. He didn't "cost us" a le. In fact, it's because of him the spurs got as close as they did. His game 7 performance was incredible. Kept the spurs in the game right up to the end.
Stupid stupid stupid take. One fewer Manu turnover at ANY point in the game and we win. Even a shot clock violation would have been better than that idiot throwing the ball around like a fourth grader.
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Is that even a coherent statement on any planet? Wtf????
Leonard gave us a chance to win. Manu threw it away. Literally. More than once. Turnovers and bad early shots killed us.
"Well without Manu we lose the overtime game to the Warriors." Yeah, right. "Manu enabled us to not win in regulation so he could win it for us in the OT." Wha-???? Only cd can understand any of this on his Bizarro world....
People ragging on Manu need to realize the complete and utter cluster that was the reserve guard rotation throughout the entire year, culminating in Gary Neal getting Pop's very own Roger Mason Jr special crash course conversion in how to pretend to be a point guard. I would be willing to bet if the spurs and heat meet once again jn the finals Manu's play will be much more fluid and composed now that there is stability in the rotations and he has guys that can actually dribble and pass as backcourt partners.
This. It's about whether you do more good than bad. That's how Manu was prior to last year's Finals. He would make mistakes but he would do more than enough good to make up for it. But in the Finals there were times we would have been better of going with someone else who wouldn't screw up as much.
Without Kawhi, the series doesn't even go to six games. He didn't "cost us" a le. In fact, it's because of him the spurs got as close as they did. His game 7 performance was incredible. Kept the spurs in the game right up to the end.
Who else would we have gone with instead of Ginobili? De Colo? Mills? Green? Neal? I really don't understand that part of ST logic. There really wasn't anyone else Pop was forced to go for broke with Manu. Either he was able to break down Miami's defense (He did in Games 3, & 5) with his play-making or he struggled against their athleticism (Game 4)
I liken it to a QB that has to throw 45 times. He may have 30 completions but he misses his intended man a ton. It was basically Parker or Ginobili, there was no one else who could even remotely run point.
Absolutely agree. Spurs had a ridiculous amount of guards who couldn't dribble or create. Neal seldom turned the ball over but never could create for others he would just look for the open man and, if their were none unavailable, he would just shoot it.
Joseph can run offense a bit better but can't shoot, teams completely ignore him and focus on the other players than can contribute.
De Colo was the best passer of the bunch but was also the most turnover prone. His shooting wasn't great either.
Mills was buried last season. He can shoot and has the second best handles of the bunch but can't run an offense either.
The biggest difference (besides getting rid of Neal and De Colo) is Diaw and Belinelli. Both can create off the dribble and are good passers. Manu doesn't have to have the ball in his hands 100% of the time. Some will be Diaw/Leonard post ups (assuming Leonard gets more touches with the second unit). Others will be involved, with Belinelli or Mills running screen and rolls. He can play more off ball and keeping Miami from wearing him down with the constant trapping.
Yep. Up 6, 28 secs to go, fouling the Heat, give them NO POSSIBILITY OF THREE.
Series over, and 5th le for the Spurs.
That is playing to win.
Pop played to lose, which, again, is why he choked more than other Spur player, times 1000.
If your so called elite coach can't think of, or refuses to implement the most basic of coaching strategies, TO CLINCH A LE, then that coach isn't elite.
i'm mixed as far as how i view parker's game 6. a lot of his heroball antics allowed the heat to gain momentum. i remember shouting "RUN OFFENSE" at the TV during much of that fourth. it was a lot of dribbling and one man show when lebron was defending him much of the time, not a great choice, and miami got back in it, even took a lead. however, Parker was money to end regulation. everybody remembers the ridiculous step-back 3 and the go ahead shot in the following possession. he was also monstrous on D in those closing minutes, forcing a couple of turnovers and defending well after getting switched onto LeBron. all in all, tony did enough for us to win the game. 2 missed free throws and 2 rebounds given up cost us. not tony
"We don't do that."
Obviously. Prob because it didn't cross his mind in the Miami Heat of the moment...
It was also TP's crazy shot in Game 1 that enabled the Spurs to win and put tremendous pressure on Miami throughout the series.
Lighten up Francis. Sometimes we don't get what we want or deserve. That's life.
People hating on Pop when he was in fact the architect of the Spurs' resurgence from 2011. I already gave up on the Spurs when they got manhandled by the Grizz in 2011. Pop's innovation enabled the Spurs to reach the WCF in 2012 and almost win a ring in 2013.
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