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So everyone agrees that some sort of minimum wage has to be present because the majority of employers would be more than willing to pay next to nothing, there is no real compe ion for unskilled labor?
"The notion of suddenly increasing minimum wage to like $15/hr that this thread is about is ridiculous. "
that's why $15 or $18/hour min wage indexed to inflation should be implemented +$1 per year.
So everyone agrees that some sort of minimum wage has to be present because the majority of employers would be more than willing to pay next to nothing, there is no real compe ion for unskilled labor?
... won't happen here.
Going to work everyday, for 1 or 2 jobs, plus weekends for at or near today's minimum wage, very probably in ty jobs with ty bosses and ty co-workers must be spirit-crushing.
If jobs paid $15/hour minimum, companies would design the jobs better to get their money's worth, while the employees would feel more valued and challenged by a well-designed job.
At minimum wage now, employers don't GAF about the jobs or employees.
I have no problem keeping minimum wage low. We have to stop employing illegal aliens though. I do believe supply and demand will work things out right, and the employers who want to attract better than minimum workers will pay better than minimum wage.
That said, I don't see raising minimum wages a problem either. I am adamant however, that it cannot be done suddenly. If we are going to shoot for a large increase as an end goal, then I really believe the best way is to do so in quarterly stages. take the cost of living changes, and double or triple it. If the quarterly COLA increased by 1.5%, then increase the minimum wage by 3% to 4.5%. Keep making these quarterly increases until we achieve the level we want.
When employees with such at udes are a dime a dozen, that's all they should get paid...
So there is no real market for unskilled labor in the US.
The US government must determine the market value of unskilled labor.
There would be if we had more jobs available to the point that any skill had value again.
I don't think it matters what the minimum wage is, and suspect it may attract even more illegal immigration, people who will work harder for the same minimum wage that US citizens. I fear this is how it will do more harm, unless we get a handle on illegal immigration.
undoc immigrants don't take jobs away from Americans, they do, like immigrants do in all industrial countries, the jobs the natives refuse to do.
Six In Ten Small Business Owners Want A $10.10 Minimum Wage
Nearly six in 10 small business owners support raising the minimum wage to $10.10, according to a new poll on behalf of Small Business Majority (SBM), with most respondents citing the prospect of increased consumer demand and improved compe iveness with large chain retailers as reasons for their endorsement of the wage hike.
The poll found 57 percent of small business owners support a $10.10 federal minimum wage, with 27 percent strongly in favor of the idea. The entrepreneurs polled were predominantly Republican, with 47 percent identifying as Republican or Republican-leaning as compared to just 35 percent who identified more with the Democratic party. Two thirds of the businesses polled had less than half a million dollars in revenue in 2013, and 59 percent of the business owners were older than 50 years of age.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/03/06/3373961/small-business-owners-minimum-wage-poll/
That is a flat out lie, or you have no clue as to the lies you are repeating.
Flat out lie
Why? Because it doesn't coincide with your confirmation bias?
Walmart’s Greed Exposed: They Could Pay Employees $25,000/Year Without Raising Prices
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/...ng-prices.htmlA new Demos study has revealed that the only thing stopping Walmart from paying their employees $25,000 a year without raising prices is their ridiculous level of greed.
According to Demos, here is how Walmart could afford to pay their workers $25,000 a year without raising prices:
Now as another holiday season approaches, this research brief considers one way Walmart could meet the wage target its employees are calling for— without raising prices. We find that if Walmart redirected the $7.6 billion it spends annually on repurchases of its own company stock, these funds could be used to give Walmart’s low-paid workers a raise of $5.83 an hour, more than enough to ensure that all Walmart workers are paid a wage equivalent to at least $25,000 a year for full-time work.
Curtailing share buybacks would not harm the company’s retail compe iveness or raise prices for consumers. In fact, some retail analysts have argued that by providing a substantial investment in the company’s front-line workforce, higher pay could be expected to improve employee productivity and morale while reducing Walmart’s expenses related to employee turnover.
With more money in their wallets, Walmart employees would likely spend a portion of the cash at Walmart itself, boosting the company’s sales. Sales might also increase as customers benefit from an improved shopping environment.
Walmart’s business model reflects the narrow minded economic views of the Republican Party. By choosing to only share profits at the top, Walmart is calling the stockholders makers and their employees takers.
The Republican idea that a business has to raise prices if wages are raised is false. Companies like Walmart can afford to raise wages without raising prices if they choose to do so. Costco has proven both Republicans and Walmart wrong by paying a living wage and watching their profits soar. Customers have abandoned Walmart for Costco in 2013, because unlike Walmart, Costco supports raising the minimum wage.
evidence that undoc workers take jobs from US citizens?
Ask your Oregon ag operators how many US citizens works in their fields and orchards.
Love me some Costco. Damn hard to find a job opening with them tho.
good paying jobs are in demand, so job-supplier Costco can choose the better candidates. You better give up.
Do you have to buy everything in bulk at Costco?
I wish to to patronize them after this info.
I just go to HEB.
I'm doing just fine, bot. Thanks for your concern.
My youngest son would like a gig there tho but positions just dont open up...good employer=low turnover.
Not everything is bulk...kinda like Sam's in that regard.
And construction, fast food, and so many other places.
Construction jobs use to pay well until the illegals would do the work cheaper.
This isn't how they make record profits. Nice touch by the AFL-CIO, as that's where that graphic comes from. There are other reasons why they are profitable.
but good wages + benefits doesn't prevent Costco from being profitable, as other mega-corps claim.
Explain Costco's business model.
And the larger point is, they can pay $45k, provide health insurance and let their workers unionize and still make record profits.
I stopped reading right there, as would anybody not drinking the coolaid.
Do any of you self-styled conservatives have any original thoughts, outside of copy pasta?
Agreed. Stable workforce has got to have a positive bottom line as well.
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