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  1. 03-07-2014 #1
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    Really cool piece on Pop and Buford, as well as Duncan.

    Crazy to see what an influence Pop has around the league.




    http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nb...nba/index.html
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    curious what Phil Jackson's tree looks like....is it just a branch out to Brian Shaw?
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    Pop's tree by and large sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    Pop's tree by and large sucks
    Two coaches from the tree, Mike Brown and Avery Johnson (not pictured) have taken teams to the Finals, so your opinion on this sucks.
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    Doc doesn't really belong in the tree. He retired the year before Pop took over coaching, and never coached under him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exstatic
    Two coaches from the tree, Mike Brown and Avery Johnson (not pictured) have taken teams to the Finals, so your opinion on this sucks.
    Presti also worked wonders in turning OKC from a cellar-dwelling expansion team to a Finals contender in short order.

    Meanwhile, Coach Bud has Atlanta in the thick of the Eastern Conference playoff race this season, even if we all know they are pretenders.
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    True, the picture doesn't even include Avery Johnson or PJ Carlesimo. Agreed about Doc, but Pop was GM when he was here
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    Mike brown was and is a ty coach. Him making the finals with Lebron doesn't change that

    Danny Ferry hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy as a Front office guy. Avery Johnson has been fired twice, Sam Presti drafted well but completely botched Perkins/Harden which will haunt OKC.

    PJ can't stop getting fired and tried to make Durant a shooting guard. Only Doc has seen sustained success. Bud is on the right track though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    Mike brown was and is a ty coach. Him making the finals with Lebron doesn't change that

    Danny Ferry hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy as a Front office guy. Avery Johnson has been fired twice, Sam Presti drafted well but completely botched Perkins/Harden which will haunt OKC.

    PJ can't stop getting fired and tried to make Durant a shooting guard. Only Doc has seen sustained success. Bud is on the right track though.
    Dude, HOF coaches get fired. Larry Brown has been fired. It's not a black mark on your record. One NFL pundit said there were only two kinds of coaches, those that have been fired and those will be.

    Ferry got rid of Josh Smith, which is a GM HOF move, and they didn't miss a beat. Presti has a cheap owner to answer to. GMs don't always get to do as they please.
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    Smith was a free agent... I'm not on some crusade here, but I'm just not impressed with the track record of most of these guys. Avery Johnson is not a great or even above average coach...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    Pop's tree by and large sucks
    Honestly, the fact alone that (as mentioned in the video) a quarter the league has ties to the Spurs speaks volumes, regardless if they're doing well or not.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... And all around the leave teams have been trying to imitate the Spurs' success for a long time now.

    And I think this list only includes active coaches... Thus the reason Avery and P. J. aren't on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    Smith was a free agent... I'm not on some crusade here, but I'm just not impressed with the track record of most of these guys. Avery Johnson is not a great or even above average coach...
    How many GMs let a talented (head case) 28 YO free agents just walk? That's a balls move. He subtracted a 10 figure annual contract from the books and didn't miss a beat.
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    Ferry was a failure in Cleveland too. Let's just call a spade a spade

    I agree with honestfool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exstatic
    Dude, HOF coaches get fired. Larry Brown has been fired. It's not a black mark on your record. One NFL pundit said there were only two kinds of coaches, those that have been fired and those will be.

    Ferry got rid of Josh Smith, which is a GM HOF move, and they didn't miss a beat. Presti has a cheap owner to answer to. GMs don't always get to do as they please.
    Ferry never putting anyone decent around James will forever overshadow anything else he does in Atlanta. I'll forever love Ferry for that series saving performance against Phoenix in Game 2 when Robinson was out and Willis was suspended, but he gave James no other option but to leave with the crap supporting casts he put around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    Ferry was a failure in Cleveland too. Let's just call a spade a spade

    I agree with honestfool.

    Yup, Ferry's tenure in Cleveland was what the kids call Epic Fail. To just waste having a talent like James on your team is unforgivable. Reminds me the mid 90s here after the Spurs let Strickland walk.
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    James is probably the easiest player ever to build around, so ferry got him mo Williams and Jamison
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    James is probably the easiest player ever to build around, so ferry got him mo Williams and Jamison
    Can't forget Larry Hughes, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, and Shaq on his very last legs. I at least wanted to give him credit for Sideshow Bob, but I looked it up and Varejao was picked the year before Ferry took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    James is probably the easiest player ever to build around, so ferry got him mo Williams and Jamison
    the MVPs, the les, I still think the most impressive thing LeBron ever did was take that horrible 2009 Cavs team to 66 wins. And 2009 was a strong year in the East, with Boston and Orlando having big seasons. Boston looked like they'd repeat until Garnett got hurt with a month left in the season.
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    Forgot about this turd.
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    what about PJ carlismo, Steve Kerr, Vinny Del Negro, Mike D'Antoni, Lance Blanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by KawhiLeonard
    what about PJ carlismo, Steve Kerr, Vinny Del Negro, Mike D'Antoni, Lance Blanks
    Three names isn’t tree of Pop, just like Doc Rivers isn’t. Neither one of them played for or coached under Pop. Having a Spurs history isn’t enough, and Three Names barely had that.
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    I criticize/talk ish on Pop when it's warranted, but he's the GOAT and has an unmatched coaching tree, in any sport.
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