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    This forum has predominately been about Manu vs Tony because nationalist pricks who don't understand the game of basketball can't stop being idiots.

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    wins are never never useless, lets just get this out the way........707 post is nothing more than the words of a sour loser!

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    POP HAD A HAND IN THE GAME 6 LOSS?

    WHAT SPORT WERE YOU WATCHING?

    Up 6, 28 secs left, Miami ball. All Pop had to do was FOUL, GIVE THEM TWO FREEBIES, AND THE SPURS HAVE THEIR 5TH BANNER HANGING FROM THE RAFTERS.

    That is Basic Basketball 101.

    Pop thought he was smart, and got cute.

    Miami got the le.

    Pop chocked more than ANY AND ALL PLAYERS ON THE TEAM, COMBINED.


    I like this young poster - he may have a future here.


    Or - he just read all of my posts regarding Pop!



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    I like this young poster - he may have a future here.


    Or - he just read all of my posts regarding Pop!


    You've relegated your future to nothing but ass hurt emoticons in club threads

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    People hating on Pop when he was in fact the architect of the Spurs' resurgence from 2011. I already gave up on the Spurs when they got manhandled by the Grizz in 2011. Pop's innovation enabled the Spurs to reach the WCF in 2012 and almost win a ring in 2013.
    He's the reason for us getting manhandled in 2011. Refusing to play Splitter till it was too late. The resurgence is due to the better defense.

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    He's the reason for us getting manhandled in 2011. Refusing to play Splitter till it was too late. The resurgence is due to the better defense.
    I agree with you partially, but without Pop realizing that Duncan isn't as dominant in the paint as he once was, Spurs would not be able to contend for the le after 2011. The motion offense gave the franchise a new leash on life. Manu's injury also played a huge role in the 2011 series against Memphis. Four things turned the franchise around after 2011:

    1. Parker taking over the team
    2. Danny Green became a starter after a short stint in the D-League.
    3. Spurs trading Hill for Kawhi.
    4. Splitter playing alongside Duncan.

    All of these things became possible only after the Spurs changed their iden y to favor the motion-offense they're using today.

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    I agree with you partially, but without Pop realizing that Duncan isn't as dominant in the paint as he once was, Spurs would not be able to contend for the le after 2011. The motion offense gave the franchise a new leash on life. Manu's injury also played a huge role in the 2011 series against Memphis. Four things turned the franchise around after 2011:

    1. Parker taking over the team
    2. Danny Green became a starter after a short stint in the D-League.
    3. Spurs trading Hill for Kawhi.
    4. Splitter playing alongside Duncan.

    All of these things became possible only after the Spurs changed their iden y to favor the motion-offense they're using today.
    Pop is brilliant.

    Hands down the most brilliant coach in the NBA.

    Which makes the fact that he didn't elect to foul in that situation, all the more choke worthy.

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    Pop is brilliant.

    Hands down the most brilliant coach in the NBA.

    Which makes the fact that he didn't elect to foul in that situation, all the more choke worthy.
    Brilliant but not perfect. He choked big time yes, but I understand the decision to not foul in last few seconds of Game 6. His worst decision was to take out Duncan, but he also had a reason for doing so. He knew that Duncan is going to get burned after the switch. Parker defended Allen as well as anyone can, but Allen happens to be the greatest three-point shooter ever. It's a case of good defense, but better offense.

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    Pop played the first situation well. Perfect, actually. Due to Boris being in for Duncan, The Spurs were able to play one-on-one in the final possession.. That led to a contested off-dribble three by LeBron James, Which resulted in a miss (As we all know.) The loose ball was literally about 1-2 inches for Leonard's fingers, It's simply a case of bad luck. Put Duncan in and the Heat potentially get a much better look.

    With that said, I personally would have liked Duncan to play the second time around. The stakes were much higher, A rebound was pretty much a necessity. And after seeing how the last possession turned out, I would stress rebounding the ball much more.

    But really.. What's the point about even bringing up last year's finals? Sure it would have been the greatest feeling in the world to see Duncan holding up that trophy, Having his Spurs beat a Miami team filled with un-loyal players who tried to take a shortcut. But what happened will never change, What's the point of stressing over it. The season as a whole is still amazing, Something we may never see again in a long time.

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    Omg, I can't get over game 6!

    Get over it already. You guys are embarassing. What Pop continues to do with this old core and spare parts is nothing short of amazing. And right back at the top this season -- that's with several key players being injured for long periods. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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    Brilliant but not perfect. He choked big time yes, but I understand the decision to not foul in last few seconds of Game 6. His worst decision was to take out Duncan, but he also had a reason for doing so. He knew that Duncan is going to get burned after the switch. Parker defended Allen as well as anyone can, but Allen happens to be the greatest three-point shooter ever. It's a case of good defense, but better offense.
    This is what I mean, Ez. If Pop fouls, there is no flukey bounce, no o rebound, no greatest 3 point shooter shooter of all time shooting it.

    Pop fouls, and it's le town.

    This was the biggest blunder of Pop's brilliant, HOFer career, but it cost the Spurs mightily.

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    People talk about 28 seconds like it was 2.8 seconds. Spurs were up by 5 with 28 seconds to go, on the road against the defending champs on their court. 28 seconds is an ETERNITY in the NBA. A win was NOT guaranteed at that point, folks!

    happens. If LeBron hadn't gone off in Game 6 and Game 7, the Spurs are 2013 NBA Champions.

    Ray Allen traveled before hitting that game-tying 3, BTW. Too bad there was no ing way in the refs would ever call that. You'd have better luck eating straw and ting gold bars.

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    People talk about 28 seconds like it was 2.8 seconds. Spurs were up by 5 with 28 seconds to go, on the road against the defending champs on their court. 28 seconds is an ETERNITY in the NBA. A win was NOT guaranteed at that point, folks!

    happens. If LeBron hadn't gone off in Game 6 and Game 7, the Spurs are 2013 NBA Champions.

    Ray Allen traveled before hitting that game-tying 3, BTW. Too bad there was no ing way in the refs would ever call that. You'd have better luck eating straw and ting gold bars.

    No, it isn't, 28 secs is 28 seconds, if Pop had just fouled the Heat, two freebies, no possibility of 3.

    It would have been le town, and this thread wouldn't exist.

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    No, it isn't, 28 secs is 28 seconds, if Pop had just fouled the Heat, two freebies, no possibility of 3.

    It would have been le town, and this thread wouldn't exist.
    Wrong.

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    5-2=3

    Spurs up 3, Heat Foul, even if the Spurs split a pair, they are up 4, with 22 seconds left.

    Rinse and repeat to victory.

    Just because you are too stubborn and homerish to admit that Pop fouled that up royally, don't mean we all are.
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    You guys still don't get =


    Let me enlighten you ....again....



    28 seconds.


    The spurs players had won the game already - here is all that Pop had to do for 28 seconds....






    abso inlutely nothing....



    Nothing.



    Just sit his ass down and allow the in spurs players to finish the game they had already won and the le they had already won./



    All he had to do was stay the out of the way....



    but he couldn't and the rest is history.


    One of the greatest coaches of all time in the NBA and all he had to do was - nothing....



    yet he failed to do that.

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    lol trying to talk about basketball again

    Talk about failure.

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    Spurs up 3, Heat Foul, even if the Spurs split a pair, they are up 4, with 22 seconds left.

    Rinse and repeat to victory.
    Well, That's hardly true. What about a 5pt/28sec game is so much crazier to come back from than a 4pt/22sec game? All Miami needs to do is hit a three and suddenly it's a single point game with 14 seconds or so to go. And that's only if it actually takes Miami a total of 6 seconds to foul the Spurs, Which is unlikely.

    4pt/22sec is far from a promising win considering how the le was on the line.

    I would much rather have the Spurs grab a rebound or hit an extra free-throw, If we're playing hypothetical situations.

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    That was some good revenge for the Spurs Thursday.

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    Well, That's hardly true. What about a 5pt/28sec game is so much crazier to come back from than a 4pt/22sec game? All Miami needs to do is hit a three and suddenly it's a single point game with 14 seconds or so to go. And that's only if it actually takes Miami a total of 6 seconds to foul the Spurs, Which is unlikely.

    4pt/22sec is far from a promising win considering how the le was on the line.

    I would much rather have the Spurs grab a rebound or hit an extra free-throw, If we're playing hypothetical situations.
    A 3 is never possible when you send them to the line for freebies. They may even miss a freebie, they aren't 100% FT shooters.

    Hence, with NO POSSIBLITY OF 3, it would have been le town, Spurs.

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    A 3 is never possible when you send them to the line for freebies. They may even miss a freebie, they aren't 100% FT shooters.

    Hence, with NO POSSIBLITY OF 3, it would have been le town, Spurs.
    Ah so basically foul every time. That actually seems like a good move, If the Spurs hit all of their free throws of course. Also hoping that one of the Heat players don't just chuck up a three right after the Spurs foul them, That way they could get 3 free throws. Oh well.

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    Pop has said they made defensive mistakes and were out of position on those final defensive possessions. It's not just all about lucky bounces. But that's what happens when you don't have your defensive anchor out there. He makes sure everyone is positioned correctly.

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    Ah so basically foul every time. That actually seems like a good move, If the Spurs hit all of their free throws of course. Also hoping that one of the Heat players don't just chuck up a three right after the Spurs foul them, That way they could get 3 free throws. Oh well.
    Bingo. Foul every time, and it's all over, the Spurs have their 5th le, working on a 6th as they're better this year.

    There is NO WAY such a basic coaching move didn't occur to Pop.

    Again, as brilliant as Pop is, he cost us this one.

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    what exactly is your point, jackass?

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    Pop played the first situation well. Perfect, actually. Due to Boris being in for Duncan, The Spurs were able to play one-on-one in the final possession.. That led to a contested off-dribble three by LeBron James, Which resulted in a miss (As we all know.) The loose ball was literally about 1-2 inches for Leonard's fingers, It's simply a case of bad luck. Put Duncan in and the Heat potentially get a much better look.

    With that said, I personally would have liked Duncan to play the second time around. The stakes were much higher, A rebound was pretty much a necessity. And after seeing how the last possession turned out, I would stress rebounding the ball much more.
    Finally, another voice of reason. Duncan has nowhere near the mobility to challenge a 3-pointer off a screen.

    Related question: if the Spurs had a 35-year-old Shaq instead of Duncan (still very good but no longer elite), would you have wanted him in the game on that last possession?

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