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Dying out? It's dead and being supplemented by scoring PGs.
Since mj is long gone, kobe is all about done, the SG era looks like it's dying down tbh. Seems like there is no one left other than harden , tosb wade that are somewhat true SG. Don't know about anything coming up in the next few years either. Especially with athletic 3s, 4s, and 5s becoming shooters now.
Dying out? It's dead and being supplemented by scoring PGs.
Eventually the position will cease to exist. It'll be 2 PGs and a frontcourt. All the 6'6 2s we have today will become 3s.
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Well, there's ISO Joe and manu, but they're also getting old... OJ Mayo was a flop...
There's still some talent... Harden, Wes Matthews, Klay Thompson, Belli, Bradley Beal...
The SG position isn't really dying out, it's just changing phases. Perhaps even becoming a bit more niche, a bit more of a 6th man role rather than a 35mpg+ role. Good shooters will always be valuable in the NBA. But as defenses evolve, so too does the SG role. It's harder to find open spot up shooters in this NBA because of how aggressively teams rotate. So either a team needs to pass the ball extraordinarily well to find the wide open shooter, or the SG had to be a bit of a hybrid, like an SF. The NBA is now getting skill guys who are bigger than they've ever been (LeBron, Dirk, Durant) and it's definitely affecting lineups even for teams that don't have a big SF.
Shooting Guards used to be able to get their shot anytime they wanted it, but modern defense has made that largely a thing of the past. Shooters now need to be able to create for themselves OR have a specific system in place to get them an open look. I don't think we're close to saying the position is done, but the spot up shooter that's left wide open is quickly becoming obsolete.
Patty mills is the future tbh
MVPatty, tbh
the shooting guard position has fallen off a cliff since Michael Redd got injured
Before MJ, who was a big time shooting guard?
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O & 45!!!
tee, hee.
Gervin and Drexler were pretty big time.
Thanks, I'm only 19 so my knowledge of basketball history is rather limited. I'm learning, though.
David Thompson (MJ's favorite player growing up)
Earl Monroe
Pistol Pete Maravich
Sidney Moncrief
The SG position is certainly dead if overrated scrubs like Harden, propped up by empty whistles and free throws, is the best of the bunch.
To think NBA fans were quite frankly spoiled with a player of Kobe's caliber post MJ, and now all these trash Hardens are all we have to look forward to...
Such is the league.
The SG position is certainly dead if overrated scrubs like Harden, propped up by empty whistles and free throws, is the best of the bunch.
To think NBA fans were quite frankly spoiled with a player of Kobe's caliber post MJ, and now all these trash Hardens are all we have to look forward to...
Such is the league.
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Harden certainly gets the calls, but come on. Dude is legit. Great handles, fast as , and a pretty decent shot. Houston isn't killing it right now by accident.
Harden may average about 15 a game without all the d-whistle treatment.
But the league loves scrubs that look "tuff," so they give him a bunch of fake freebies.
We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.
Kobe got superstar calls. Durant gets them. What is your point?
Kobe got Superstar calls in the begging of his career, but Kobe worked so hard on his game, they stopped giving him to Kobe. He was such a great player, they had to remove the biased officiating in his favor, or it would have been too lopsided. From about 2005-06, 07 at the latest, Kobe stopped getting the superstar treatment.
The Lakers I hate. Shaq, that fat, lazy bum I hate. But Kobe I have nothing but for respect for his game. There is a reason why he's the second greatest player in his generation, to only TD. He rose above biased officiating, beat you with his game, and his game only. Not to say he didn't want or miss the advantage, but nonetheless, he did.
But other scrubs, like DWhistle (2006 Finals), Harden, are content to coast on bad officiating, beat their chests like they actually did something, hitting some fake free throw.
This is why players like Whistle, and Harden will never hold a candle to Kobe.
Post Jordan SG: Kobe, then a bunch of other no name scrubs.
Cant agree with all of this but at least an attempt to be unbiased. All superstars get calls even TD, but Kobe and duncan are so strong fundamentally they don't need as much.
1. Hold on, so Kobe was so great he had to stop getting calls because it would have been too lopsided?I guess you don't remember the Jordan era.
2. Harden drives to the paint and manipulates the defender into fouling him. It is a foul. But is not his entire game.
3. Explain Durant's FTA?
I dont think anyone should be upset that Harden, Durant or CP3 get star calls almost all superstar or all-stars do.
I just think the cheap failing that some stars resort to while smart smacks a bit of " -made" ...if you played hoops and some guy you were guarding did that stuff you would want to sock him dead in his jaw.
But since the refs suck and fall for it cant blame tbh ...
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