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    "The Spurs boast arguably the deepest roster in the NBA, with nine players getting regular minutes and scoring between 17.8 and 8.4 points per game. Eight have a Player Efficiency Rating above the weighted average of 15.0.


    But as critical as it’s been, the Spurs’ emphasis on balance over raw star power doesn’t bode well from a historic perspective. Indeed, according to the NBA’s weekly media newsletter, there hasn’t been an NBA championship with nine eight-point scorers since the Celtics back in 1966.


    That’s about as obscure as it gets from a statistical threshold. And while rare, ensemble championships are far from unheard of in the NBA.

    Loosen up the standards, and you’ll find at least six championship teams since the NBA/ABA merger in 1976 that enjoyed similar balance to this season’s Spurs:


    Portland, 1976-77 — Eight players averaging at least 8.0 points
    Washington, 1977-78 — Nine averaging at least 7.6
    Seattle, 1978-79 — Seven averaging at least 11.0
    Detroit, 1988-89 — Nine averaging at least 7.0
    Detroit, 1989-90 — Eight averaging at least 7.0
    Detroit, 2003-04 — Seven averaging at least 9.5 "

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    1. Tim Duncan-21.3 P.E.R-30.8-MPG
    2. Manu Ginobili-19.8 P.E.R-23.3 MPG
    3. Tony Parker-19.6 P.E.R.-29.6 MPG
    4. Patty Mills-18.5 P.E.R-18.4 MPG
    5. Kawhi Leonard-18.1 P.E.R-28.9 MPG
    6. Tiago Splitter-16.9 P.E.R-21.2 MPG
    7. Boris Diaw-15.5 P.E.R-25.4 MPG
    8. Marco Belinelli-15.2 P.E.R -25.2 MPG
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    9. Cory Joseph-14.0 P.E.R-14.2 MPG

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    True, but let's hope these guys can play this well in the playoffs. Everyone knows the playoffs are about stars, and a whole team of pretty good guys without some well defined superstars usually doesn't do well in the NBA playoffs.

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    8 players with above average efficiency is staggering. Only 5 players last season were above 15.0 P.E.R (Duncan, Splitter, Manu, Parker, Leonard)

    Diaw and Mills are +3.5 and +4.4 in P.E.R from last season to this season.

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    True, but let's hope these guys can play this well in the playoffs. Everyone knows the playoffs are about stars, and a whole team of pretty good guys without some well defined superstars usually doesn't do well in the NBA playoffs.

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    Please show their defensive efficiency. It's not the amount of points you score, it's the amount you give up.

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    I will wait till they get past round two to even give a honestly.

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    Diaw/Belenelli are two of the most efficient role players in the league
    no idea how they can be so low in PER
    and Danny's value is way higher than whatever advanced stats predict


    and the Spurs actually do play good defense statistically
    the only teams ahead of them are Indiana/Chicago/Golden State
    the only reason Indiana and Chicago are as good as they are defensively is because they cant score the ball so if they dont lock you down theyll lose bad
    Indiana's been surrending like 110 per 100 since the All Star break which is a big reason why theyve lost 4 straight
    the games they didnt lose before that came vs a cupcake schedule of the bottom feeders

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    I will wait till they get past round two to even give a honestly.
    So, why are you here now, then?

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    Counting players by scoring average is misleading. If you start the season playing only 7 players and they all average 8 PPG or more, then they all get injured and you play 7 other players who average 8 PPG, suddenly you have 14 players averaging 8 or more.

    I agree that the Spurs are probably the deepest team in the league, and also that that depth is not terribly important to winning a le (it's about your top 6 in the playoffs). I just disagree with using PPG to make that argument.

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    So, why are you here now, then?
    Dont get mad to the best avatar in ST!

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    The Bullets had eight players above 8 p/g in 1977-78 while there star player averaged 7.6 p/g. Wes Unseld only tried to score if behind in the 4th.

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    we were deeper last year and even deeper the year before.

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    we were deeper last year and even deeper the year before.
    We weren't deeper last year, but I'll give you the year before. I really felt we had a chance to win it all that year.

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    we were deeper last year and even deeper the year before.


    Bonner getting big playoff minutes = deep.


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    We weren't deeper last year, but I'll give you the year before. I really felt we had a chance to win it all that year.
    we were deeper last year, especially in the bigs department, ayres, daye, baynes and bonner are not contributers this year. At least Bonner had a role last year, Joseph also had one. So yeah, we were deeper.

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    Bonner getting big playoff minutes = deep.

    yeah, that's exactly what it means, no matter how you fight it.

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    we were deeper last year, especially in the bigs department, ayres, daye, baynes and bonner are not contributers this year. At least Bonner had a role last year, Joseph also had one. So yeah, we were deeper.
    We still have Bonner and Joseph on the Roster, so you're not making any sense tbh They don't get the minutes they got last year because they don't deserve the minutes they got last year. We're tons better than last. We had freaking gary neal coming off the bench last year.

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    We still have Bonner and Joseph on the Roster, so you're not making any sense tbh They don't get the minutes they got last year because they don't deserve the minutes they got last year. We're tons better than last. We had freaking gary neal coming off the bench last year.
    how deeper means better? seriously, geez...

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    So, why are you here now, then?
    Because I am a fan of the team but I don't get excited by they are deep articles and so on. What happens happens but the real season has yet to begin and us Spurs fans know it.

    I guess I will make an appearance after round two! Hopefully
    We still have Bonner and Joseph on the Roster, so you're not making any sense tbh They don't get the minutes they got last year because they don't deserve the minutes they got last year. We're tons better than last. We had freaking gary neal coming off the bench last year.
    If we are tons better than last year we will surely win the le then this year!

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    how deeper means better? seriously, geez...
    When you're speaking exclusively to bench play, deeper absolutely does mean better.

    Mills >>>> the cobbled together backup pg we had last year. Remember how it was so bad that we actually tried running GARY NEAL at the 1? Yeah, that's desperation.

    Beli >> Neal. Clearly. Better at ude, smarter player, less of a chucker, is bad on D but at least tries to guard his man. WAY better off the ball as well.

    Manu = Manu

    Diaw this year >>> Diaw last year. Dude has stepped it up big time and looks to be on great shape.

    Nando got 12-14 minutes per game last year and he could not even get off the bench for us this year. That tells you all you need to know about our depth. This is the deepest team 1-9 that I think I've ever seen in the NBA. We literally have 9 guys who could score 15-20 points on any given night, and most of then are good to great to elite defenders at their position. They can ALL pass the ball well. And most of them can drill a 3 ball.

    We're going to be a monster in the playoffs this year. Only OKC in the West really has a shot as long as we stay healthy.

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    When you're speaking exclusively to bench play, deeper absolutely does mean better.

    Mills >>>> the cobbled together backup pg we had last year. Remember how it was so bad that we actually tried running GARY NEAL at the 1? Yeah, that's desperation.

    Beli >> Neal. Clearly. Better at ude, smarter player, less of a chucker, is bad on D but at least tries to guard his man. WAY better off the ball as well.

    Manu = Manu

    Diaw this year >>> Diaw last year. Dude has stepped it up big time and looks to be on great shape.

    Nando got 12-14 minutes per game last year and he could not even get off the bench for us this year. That tells you all you need to know about our depth. This is the deepest team 1-9 that I think I've ever seen in the NBA. We literally have 9 guys who could score 15-20 points on any given night, and most of then are good to great to elite defenders at their position. They can ALL pass the ball well. And most of them can drill a 3 ball.

    We're going to be a monster in the playoffs this year. Only OKC in the West really has a shot as long as we stay healthy.
    deeper means deeper better means better, stop it.

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    deeper means better, no one talks about a 'deep bench' if the bench is atrociously awful.
    we have the highest scoring bench in the ing league.

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    we were deeper last year and even deeper the year before.
    What an atrociously bad take. Your blind Beli hate is getting old, tbh.

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    we were deeper last year and even deeper the year before.
    Our top 8 is far superior to either of those teams. Only 5 players had a P.E.R of 15.0 or better. Neal was a trainwreck last season and he played a fairly large role on that team. He has been replaced with Mills who is a massive upgrade compared to last seasons Neal.

    Neal - O Rating-99 D Rating-106= -6

    Mills (this season) - O Rating-114 D Rating-104= +10

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    I will wait till they get past round two to even give a honestly.
    Agreed, unfortunately.

    If Spurs can find a way to choke up, and give the gift of a le to the Heat in 26 seconds, up 5, then there is nothing else talk about.

    Don't invest your emotions until they are holding the trophy, or they will find some other way to break your heart.

    Spurs maybe the deepest team in history, no one cares, least of all Spurs fans.

    Show it in the playoffs and finals where it actually counts, or shut up.

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