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Well, for some reason, it's more appealing than staying with the Ukraine.
That should say something...
The Crimea wants to secede because Kiev is corrupt?
So they want to be a part of the corrupt a Russian system where there are basically no real elections. Gotcha.
You need to do research on Kiev if you don't believe there are competing factions. That's why the elections are so important.
Well, for some reason, it's more appealing than staying with the Ukraine.
That should say something...
Heck yes it's more appealing when Russian solders are standing in the streets with weapons.
Crimea wanted to get out from under the Ukraine thumb before that.
Some did because they are ethnic Russians. Some...
And when Russia claimed ethnic Russians were under attack, which was blatantly false by credible accounts, heck yes they get scared. The men in the street with guns marching through often get the cheers because they are in control.
As French towns alternatively got taken over by the allies and Germans in WWII they alternated flags and cheers.
WC what are your thoughts on the ballot of the upcoming Crimean vote?
I think they will choose Russia.
Of course they will, there are Russian troops everywhere.
You think the Russians will ask for UN monitors to make sure they are free and fair. I mean they would not allow any monitoring during the invasion when ethnic Russians were under grave threat and were dying in the streets...
Naivety runs deep...
Have you read the actual ballot?
* Ballot paper offers no choice for staying with status quo
* Both options lead to Crimea passing under Russian control
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4947557.html
KIEV, March 11 (Reuters) - Sunday's vote in Ukraine's Crimea is being officially billed as a chance for the peninsula's peoples to decide fairly and freely their future - but in fact there is no room on the ballot paper for voting "Nyet" to control by Russia.
The Crimean voter will have the right to choose only one of two options in the March 16 referendum which the region's pro-Russian leadership, protected by Russian forces, announced earlier this month.
According to a format of the ballot paper, published on the parliament's website, the first question will ask: "Are you in favour of the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a part of the Russian Federation?"
The second asks: "Are you in favour of restoring the 1992 Cons ution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine?"
At first glance, the second option seems to offer the prospects of the peninsula remaining within Ukraine.
But the 1992 national blueprint - which was adopted soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union and then quickly abolished by the young post-Soviet Ukrainian state - is far from doing that.
This foresees giving Crimea all the qualities of an independent en y within Ukraine - but with the broad right to determine its own path and choose relations with whom it wants - including Russia.
With the pro-Russian assembly already saying it wants to return Crimea to Russia, this second option only offers a slightly longer route to shifting the peninsula back under Russian control, analysts say.
The option of asking people if they wish to stick with the status quo - in which Crimea enjoys autonomy but remains part of Ukraine - is not on offer.
Any mark in one of the boxes is regarded as a "Da" vote. Ballot papers will be regarded as spoiled if a voter fills in both boxes or indeed does not fill in either.
Those who stay away will also not influence the outcome, since the result will simply be based on the option preferred by a majority of those voting.
NO OPTION
"Even if it (the referendum) were legitimate, the two choices presented to Crimean voters offer them no option for leaving Russian control," wrote Keir Giles of the London-based Chatham House.
"The restoration of this (1992) cons ution would be a step towards notional independence under Russian control ... Those citizens who were content with Crimea remaining part of Ukraine on the same basis as it has been for the last 20 years do not have a voice in this referendum. There is no third option available."
The Black Sea territory, which was under Russian rule for centuries and gifted to Ukraine by then-Kremlin leader Nikita Khrushchev in 1954 when Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, has an ethnic Russian majority population which appears to ensure the vote will be valid on Sunday.
The vote will take place against the backdrop of a pro-Russia billboard campaign showing two maps and visions of Crimea - one covered in a Russian flag, the other with a giant black swastika emblazoned across it.
In Sevastopol, a Soviet World War Two "hero city" where part of the Russian Black Sea fleet is based, another placard urges people to vote to stop fascism, suggesting the vote was a way of stopping Ukraine's far-right radicals coming to power.
Election officials sought to project the impression of Crimea's peoples - who include the indigenous Tatars as well as Ukrainians - being offered a real choice. The ballot paper on the web site was in Ukrainian and Tatar as well as Russian.
Valery Medvedev, the Russian-born chairman of Sevastopol's electoral commission, used a news conference to announce how he would vote.
"We're living through historic times. Sevastopol would love to fulfil its dream of joining Russia. I want to be part of Russia and I'm not embarrassed to say that," he told reporters.
Medvedev said the vote would be fair, however. People only had to answer one question in the referendum, he added, before correcting himself to say there were in fact two questions. "Either to be with Russia or to be with Ukraine," he said.
Last I saw, it was a choice between staying under Ukrainian control, or accepting to move to Russian control. Do you have a copy of it?
OK, it appears the choice is between joining Russia, or being an independent country.
It appears they can be under Russian control, or be under Russian control.
Bull .
The 1992 cons ution has them as a completely autonomous republic of the Ukraine.
So they'd be an independent country under Russian control.
That's a funny comprehension you have. The Ukraine had it's independence from the Soviet Union in 1990.
Either way the vote goes they're under Russian control, why is that so hard for you to comprehend.
So did the pics come directly from your 'media will lie to you so listen to us' source complete with a description on how to think?That is fail. Calling them "ring wing extremists" or "nationalists" doesn't do it justice. Maybe they go as far to mention "neo-fascist" in the body of the article (which no one reads). The reuters one goes so far as apologizing for them stating "Svoboda is currently best described as a radical nationalist party, and not as fascist or neo-Nazi," he said. "It is now not overtly anti-Semitic."" Another one quotes one of the party leaders itself saying that "we aren't neo-nazis I swear"
Ever wonder why they were attacking the Lenin statues? It wasn't because Russia had attacked yet.
I'll let you decide.
I googled "Ukraine far right nationalist" and listed every major outlet I saw on the first page. "Ukraine nazi" brought up a bunch of your beforeitsnews type conspiracy nonsense telling me that the first google was not real. If you want to be led around by the nose by that cottage industry then have at it.
That's exactly what he wants. He wants the mainstream media to confirm his bias.
Why is it so hard for you to understand?
I understand it quite well, you are the one who seems to be lost concerning the situation.
Believe as you wish.
After a referendum on 20 January 1991, Crimea regained its status as an Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.[1] (Since this was months before the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine of 24 August 1991 (by December 1991 internationally recognized[2]) Crimea was at the time part of the Ukrainian SSR which was one of the cons uent republics of the Soviet Union.[1][3]) In February 1992 the Crimean parliament transformed Crimea into "Republic of Crimea" and the Ukrainian government offered them more self-government.[1] On 5 May 1992 parliament declared Crimea independent[1] (which was yet to be approved by a referendum to be held 2 August 1992[4]) and passed the first Crimean cons ution the same day.[4] On 6 May 1992 the same parliament inserted a new sentence into this cons ution that declared that Crimea was part of Ukraine.[4] On 13 May 1992 the Verkhovna Rada (the Ukrainian parliament) annulled Crimea's independence declaration and gave its Crimean counterpart one week to do the same.[4] In June 1992 the parties reached a compromise and Crimea was given the status of "Autonomous Republic".[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons ution_of_Crimea
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Care to explain how you think there is an option for them to not be under Russian control?But the 1992 national blueprint - which was adopted soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union and then quickly abolished by the young post-Soviet Ukrainian state - is far from doing that.
This foresees giving Crimea all the qualities of an independent en y within Ukraine - but with the broad right to determine its own path and choose relations with whom it wants - including Russia.
With the pro-Russian assembly already saying it wants to return Crimea to Russia, this second option only offers a slightly longer route to shifting the peninsula back under Russian control, analysts say.
The option of asking people if they wish to stick with the status quo - in which Crimea enjoys autonomy but remains part of Ukraine - is not on offer.
"Even if it (the referendum) were legitimate, the two choices presented to Crimean voters offer them no option for leaving Russian control," wrote Keir Giles of the London-based Chatham House.
"The restoration of this (1992) cons ution would be a step towards notional independence under Russian control ... Those citizens who were content with Crimea remaining part of Ukraine on the same basis as it has been for the last 20 years do not have a voice in this referendum. There is no third option available."
The '92 cons ution was under the Ukraine, with autonomy.
Do you have a link to the exact ballot wording?
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