how to make the Club a better place

[Chewbacca]

^^^^^^^^^^

[ChumpDumper]

So, none of you want any changes at all?

OK. I thought you had a goal or a purpose in what you are doing.

[silverblk mystix]

So, none of you want any changes at all?

OK. I thought you had a goal or a purpose in what you are doing.

Yeah, I started this "surrender thread" because...


oh wait!

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I started this "surrender thread" because...


oh wait!

Just say you don't want anything to change if that is the way you feel.

Or say what you want to have changed.

It can't be that difficult for you.

[Chewbacca]

This surrender thread of mine was to still try to get yall banned while needing mercy from you all and my friends that I disrespected by turning their forum into my cesspool. That's the only change I want. Banning of those that exposed my ty ways of being a poster and friend.

[xmas1997]

So who would be the arbiter of what is hassling, insulting people and disrupting discussions?

Would you just go right back to the troll behavior if you felt someone did those things anywhere?

We need a mod IMHO who will be quick with the ban tool IMHO.

No such privileges anymore. Not for a long time. whottt kind of ended that for us, which was just as well. I was too quick with the ban stick.

That's too bad, you would have been good at it IMHO because it would have forced you to be neutral.

So, none of you want any changes at all?

OK. I thought you had a goal or a purpose in what you are doing.

I just stated in one of my posts what I wanted changed.
I am just not delusional in that it is going to happen all by itself.
Thus I have been forced to act out against the trolls.
I didn't want to, but to stand idly by and continue to watch this forum go down hill was more painful.

[ChumpDumper]

What you perceive as my intentions should have no bearing on what you want changed or whether you want anything changed at all.

What do you want changed, SA210?

What do you want changed, SBM?

[silverblk mystix]

What you perceive as my intentions should have no bearing on what you want changed or whether you want anything changed at all.

What do you want changed, SA210?

What do you want changed, SBM?

You seem to be acting like a mod, why the questions?

How bout we hear your public apology - get SA210 reinstated with your apology pinned as the first thread on the club front page for a year at least -

then we can discuss your "interrogation toward us"

Sounds fair?

Thanks.

[Chewbacca]

This disingenuous surrender thread has proven I will always be a troll and a liar. Therefore my online ass-raping will continue, which I deserve.

[ChumpDumper]

We need a mod IMHO who will be quick with the ban tool IMHO.

So the mod would decide who is hassling, insulting people and disrupting discussions?

And if he made a decision that didn't match your expectations, what would you do?

That's too bad, you would have been good at it IMHO because it would have forced you to be neutral.

I think demanding someone take sides is not neutral behavior at all.

I just stated in one of my posts what I wanted changed.
I am just not delusional in that it is going to happen all by itself.
Thus I have been forced to act out against the trolls.
I didn't want to, but to stand idly by and continue to watch this forum go down hill was more painful.

You think your actions have made it go uphill?

[Chewbacca]

You seem to be acting like a mod, why the questions?

How bout we hear your public apology - get SA210 reinstated with your apology pinned as the first thread on the club front page for a year at least -

then we can discuss your "interrogation toward us"

Sounds fair?

Thanks.


Edit: Another Chump desperate massive obvious lie and spin attempt coming in 3.2.1....

[ChumpDumper]

You seem to be acting like a mod

You seem to be acting unnecessarily evasive.

why the questions?

Why not?

How bout we hear your public apology - get SA210 reinstated with your apology pinned as the first thread on the club front page for a year at least

This is the only change you want?

And for what would I be apologizing?

[Chewbacca]

^^^

[Chewbacca]

I think that - if anyone cares - genuinely cares - and isn't attempting some new troll job -

Re-read all the Chewbacca posts in this thread for a start. Then read them again.

Every single post and every single point he made is nothing but truth.

Of course - a year or two ago - I said a lot of the same things and so did avante - but

the Blake/Chumpies of the board saw it as a nice opportunity to rally the troops to just out me, troll me, and ban me -

and even me saying this now - is basically just giving trolls ammo to run in here and throw out their patented;

"meltdown"

"lol"

"you are taking this serious"

"stupid"

"blah-blah"


So we all got what we paid for and suddenly - years later - someone is thinking that the trolls are out of hand?

Trolls are people like Blake and Chump who started this disengenuos thread claiming to want dialogue -

then ran to the mods/owners in the hopes that the owners would respond by banning whomever they want banned that is in this thread - while they slipped out of the thread to appear innocent.

Trolls are people whom you could never have a sincere conversation with for over a decade - but today -

they suddenly want to have a dialogue.


Everyone knows who they are and so do they.

[Chewbacca]

I'm angry that people liked the great posting that SA210 did even though I snitched to get SA210 banned. I'm angry that several posters came in this disingenuous thread started by my troll blake and they vouched for SA210 as a good/decent/great poster and not one has done that for me or Blake! Now everyone sees how all the gibberish I speak holds no water, never did.

.

Well xmas said I was good, but you see xmas is better than me. He is trying to help fix this board that I ruined so badly that belongs to my friends.

But other than the humbleness of xmas (that I will never posses bc I'm a ty human being, ty poster and ty friend for life), noone has come in here to say I am a good poster, quite the contrary in fact.

People have come in here and bashed my horrible existence on this board, and deservedly so. This is fact. All can see.

I hope my owner friends don't read these truths.

Now, if anyone comes in from this point forward to claim otherwise it's only because this major hurtful truth bomb was just pointed out and i need that help/favors from other trolls lol


Damn, Chewie keeps working me in the paint!

[silverblk mystix]

You seem to be acting unnecessarily evasive.Why not?

This is the only change you want?

And for what would I be apologizing?

Re-read my post - re-read everything that chewie posted - then you allow yourself the possibility that chewie is 100% accurate -

even if only as a temporary test to yourself -

then you can "interrogate" people.

Until then - I am not a fan of "pissing in the wind" as a troll forum/cesspool without IMPARTIAL moderation is a cesspool is a cesspool -is a in cesspool...


It is what it is - regardless - of any "demands" that anyone here comes up with.


Bring the owner in here and address the entire club with a promise from the owner to make changes -


then you will see who is a troll and who wants to be part of a respectful place.


Having said all that -


I didn't start this thread and I can play whichever game is being played here and beat you at your own game.....

[Chewbacca]

[xmas1997]

So who would be the arbiter of what is hassling, insulting people and disrupting discussions?

Would you just go right back to the troll behavior if you felt someone did those things anywhere?

No such privileges anymore. Not for a long time. whottt kind of ended that for us, which was just as well. I was too quick with the ban stick.

So the mod would decide who is hassling, insulting people and disrupting discussions?

And if he made a decision that didn't match your expectations, what would you do?

I think demanding someone take sides is not neutral behavior at all.


You think your actions have made it go uphill?

If you were the mod, then you would be the arbiter.
Yes, you might make a few mistakes, but by and large, you would be right, and you could always correct your mistakes.
Bruno does just fine up above.
And I would complain to the powers that be if the mod made what I considered a bad decision. There needs to be an appeal process, a simple one, Hopefully all the mods and the owners would be involved in that.

You think asking, no, you said "demanding" someone take sides is neutral?
I wasn't asking you to be neutral simply because we are discussing actions toward trolls here, not decent civil posters, there can be no neutrality when it comes to trolls, they are a sub-human category IMHO.

And no, my actions are a direct result of, a reaction, if you will, of an over abundance and preponderance of troll activity on the site.
Thus I have not contributed to what was already a bad situation here due to the trolls. If anything, I have helped make this a better place to post and have discussions IMHO.
I won't argue or justify my actions anymore about it.
As far as I am concerned, I had enough and have finally acted out.
It may get worse before it gets better, but it will get better IMHO.
Do you disagree?

[ChumpDumper]

Re-read my post - re-read everything that chewie posted - then you allow yourself the possibility that chewie is 100% accurate -

even if only as a temporary test to yourself -

then you can "interrogate" people.

Until then - I am not a fan of "pissing in the wind" as a troll forum/cesspool without IMPARTIAL moderation is a cesspool is a cesspool -is a in cesspool...


It is what it is - regardless - of any "demands" that anyone here comes up with.


Bring the owner in here and address the entire club with a promise from the owner to make changes -


then you will see who is a troll and who wants to be part of a respectful place.


Having said all that -


I didn't start this thread and I can play whichever game is being played here and beat you at your own game.....

I didn't start the thread but thanks for listing at least some of your demands.

It's a start.

[ChumpDumper]

And SA210 needs to speak for himself outside of someone else's quotes.

[Chewbacca]

Do you disagree?

Yes! Because I am the pathetic leader of those cesspool trolls you speak of that ruined this forum that belongs to my friends.

^^^^^

[silverblk mystix]

And SA210 needs to speak for himself outside of someone else's quotes.

Why?

Did you speak to the owners and do you have permission to change things?

Then why piss in the wind if you did not?

[Chewbacca]

needs

[ChumpDumper]

Why?

Did you speak to the owners and do you have permission to change things?

Then why piss in the wind if you did not?

Just a suggestion. He could be taken more seriously.

[silverblk mystix]

Just a suggestion. He could be taken more seriously.

SA210 could also be taken more seriously -



IF his account had not been stealth banned.