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  1. 03-16-2014 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by HemisfairArena
    My money is on Kyrie Irving. I don't consider him a super star. How many top 10 draft picks does this guy need to succeed? They have Waiters, Thompson, and Bennett(all top 10 picks) and Irving still cant get them into the playoffs. He falling into the category of 'Melo and KLove. Guys who can put up some stats but cant take a team anywhere as the main guy. At least Noah can lead his team into the playoffs.
    you may be right, but Noah has Tibbs ... Kyrie has Mike Brown.
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  2. 03-16-2014 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
    I also used to dislike Noah, but then, the last couple years I started really learning the game, tbh.... for some reason as a Clipperfan l've never really understood why fans liked players who didn't appear in commercials and stuff. Both Noah and Blake are really cool....

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  3. 03-16-2014 #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    Every All-star in the league not named: Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Lebron, Wade, Pierce.
    The magnificent 7 won all the les the past 10 years and some needed help from another of the 7 to get theirs ... except Timmy.
    Dirk had no help of those names up there...
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  4. 03-16-2014 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodelo
    Dirk had no help of those names up there...
    You are right meant to say Duncan AND DIRK ...
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  5. 03-16-2014 #55
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  6. 03-16-2014 #56
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    Noah being overrated is absolutely hilarious. The dude is the hardest worker on the court and puts it all out there every time, somehow keeping the bulls relevant despite rose pretty much soaking up a max contract for no reason.

    Rubio gets my vote, the guy is embarrassing offensively and his passing doesn't even come close to making up for it.
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  7. 03-16-2014 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    Every All-star in the league not named: Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Lebron, Wade, Pierce.
    The magnificent 7 won all the les the past 10 years and some needed help from another of the 7 to get theirs ... except Timmy.
    Superstar is thrown around far to loosely. Plenty of stars in the NBA ...

    Willing to accept arguments for Durant as a pending member ...
    Dirk didn't need superstar help.

    And you left out MVPau.
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  8. 03-16-2014 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Dirk didn't need superstar help.

    And you left out MVPau.
    Already addressed and No I did not ...
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  9. 03-16-2014 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Dirk didn't need superstar help.

    And you left out MVPau.
    Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.
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  10. 03-16-2014 #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
    Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.
    Though Kirby was shinin' shoes without MVPau to carry him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
    Though Pau couldn't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.
    Your kobe raped as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    Already addressed and No I did not ...
    Good enough to drag everyone of his team to the playoffs in his prime.
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  13. 03-16-2014 #63
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    Btw, Noah is not better, or in the same level as griffin, harden, uni brow, Paul George, curry or even love this year.

    Love the guy, help team win games, but he's a role player. Just getting the chandler in 2011 treatment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clipper Nation
    Though Kirby was shinin' shoes without MVPau to carry him.
    Though Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game without Kobe holding his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmanutres
    Your kobe raped as well
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Btw, Noah is not better, or in the same level as griffin, harden, uni brow, Paul George, curry or even love this year.

    Love the guy, help team win games, but he's a role player. Just getting the chandler in 2011 treatment
    All of the guys above can win you games by themselves. Noah can't do that. That's what keeps him from going from super roleplayer -> star.

    If he's your third option on your team though, you're pretty solid since he does so many things well. I know you're not comparing the two, but he's better than Chandler was in 2011 imo.
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    Unless its Dirk, PFs that suck on defense are absolutely terrible tbh.
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  18. 03-16-2014 #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by HemisfairArena
    My money is on Kyrie Irving. I don't consider him a super star. How many top 10 draft picks does this guy need to succeed? They have Waiters, Thompson, and Bennett(all top 10 picks) and Irving still cant get them into the playoffs. He falling into the category of 'Melo and KLove. Guys who can put up some stats but cant take a team anywhere as the main guy. At least Noah can lead his team into the playoffs.

    Ok...time for me to stop posting. Poor kid started 0-5 tonight and got injured and is out....hopefully not bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Btw, Noah is not better, or in the same level as griffin, harden, uni brow, Paul George, curry or even love this year.

    Love the guy, help team win games, but he's a role player. Just getting the chandler in 2011 treatment
    Noah has 3 triple doubles this season
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
    you've nary room

    your neal raped as well
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  21. 03-17-2014 #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by FkLA
    David Lee
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    Amare Stoudemire
    Carlos Boozer
    David West

    Unless its Dirk, PFs that suck on defense are absolutely terrible tbh.
    David West is a good defender... just isn't known for help-defense shotblocking #'s.

    i don't think you can call STAT overrated. in fact, with how his recent NY seasons have gone, people are probably underrating his career
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    amare over rated? son was hanging 50 on prime duncans head in the playoffs. come on
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Btw, Noah is not better, or in the same level as griffin, harden, uni brow, Paul George, curry or even love this year.

    Love the guy, help team win games, but he's a role player. Just getting the chandler in 2011 treatment
    noah's been doing this for a while, he's just finally getting the credit he deserves. look at their roster, then look at his numbers, then look at their team record. He's doing something very right to be dragging them to the playoffs (yes its the east but their roster is god awful).
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  24. 03-17-2014 #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty
    Noah has 3 triple doubles this season
    Doesn't make him better than those. He's a well rounded player. Great defender, fantastic passer, almost like chandler + brad miller kind of game, but still not a superstar, Bit he's getting the superstar treatment.

    Bob sura once had a few triple doubles as well. Doesn't mean much.
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  25. 03-17-2014 #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief keef
    amare over rated? son was hanging 50 on prime duncans head in the playoffs. come on
    Nash and dantoni. He was very much a product of the system.

    In his heyday, Amazing finisher, progressed as a defender but still bad, also prone to stupid mistakes that costs his teams.

    Your right, probably underrated now, but was overrated during his prime.
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