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    Missed the episode, but still zero proof. You can spin it however you would like but the evidence doesn't exist.

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    So far this is the best series I have ever seen on network TV.

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    So far this is the best series I have ever seen on network TV.
    The Elegant Universe (PBS) was excellent as well, but Brian Greene never went out of his way to slap the creationists so overtly.

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    so what happened in this episode? a fish walked onto land?

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    so what happened in this episode? a fish walked onto land?
    A scientifically unabashed destruction of creationism is what happened.

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    The Elegant Universe (PBS) was excellent as well, but Brian Greene never went out of his way to slap the creationists so overtly.
    If I was going to count PBS as network TV I would have gone with The Mechanical Universe. Too much analogy and speculation (e.g., string theory) in the Brian Greene stuff. None of the stuff like quantized energy levels, quantum tunneling, etc makes much sense without PDE.


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    A scientifically unabashed destruction of creationism is what happened.
    I doubt it, where is the proof of evolution?

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    Oh look we evolved, and so did the seeds, and plants, and animals! And it all happened by chance! It just so happens that it all worked out perfectly for life to survive! Those animals evolved perfectly to be cut into steaks! And the plants are edible! And the potatoes are oh so good! And and the soil is fertile for all of this to thrive! And look! Water from the sky to irrigate the plants! Of course this all happened by chance for no reason at all!

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    Oh look we evolved, and so did the seeds, and plants, and animals! And it all happened by chance! It just so happens that it all worked out perfectly for life to survive! Those animals evolved perfectly to be cut into steaks! And the plants are edible! And the potatoes are oh so good! And and the soil is fertile for all of this to thrive! And look! Water from the sky to irrigate the plants! Of course this all happened by chance for no reason at all!
    So what do you think we you see something like this?

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/scien...cestry2_10-18/

    6,000 years old? a fake?

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    So what do you think we you see something like this?

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/scien...cestry2_10-18/

    6,000 years old? a fake?
    Where are you getting 6,000 from? Oh that's right, you just go by what every other idiot thinks the Bible says. And how in any way does that skull prove that we evolved from an ape?

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    Where are you getting 6,000 from? Oh that's right, you just go by what every other idiot thinks the Bible says. And how in any way does that skull prove that we evolved from an ape?
    Where are you getting it from then? So are you an intelligent design idiot then? If we were intelligently designed, then the designer must not have been that intelligent because we're quite flawed on many levels (you illustrating this fact perfectly).

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    Where are you getting it from then? So are you an intelligent design idiot then? If we were intelligently designed, then the designer must not have been that intelligent because we're quite flawed on many levels (you illustrating this fact perfectly).
    How are we flawed? The Human body is an absolute marvel, why haven't scientist been able to create a better human? All scientist do is try to connect pieces of a made up puzzle. Oh look, we kinda look like apes so we must be their descendants. LOL. You can think, reason, feel love and kindness, even sadness, evolution did it. LOL

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    How are we flawed? The Human body is an absolute marvel, why haven't scientist been able to create a better human? All scientist do is try to connect pieces of a made up puzzle. Oh look, we kinda look like apes so we must be their descendants. LOL. You can think, reason, feel love and kindness, even sadness, evolution did it. LOL
    We're incredibly fragile, do I need to list the number of diseases capable of killing us? Why are we not immune to those? Why does God allow us to get cancer, go blind (of natural causes), go deaf of (natural causes), and so fourth. Why don't we all look exactly the same? Why are some people 7 feet tall and some people 5 feet tall, and so on and so fourth?

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    We're incredibly fragile, do I need to list the number of diseases capable of killing us? Why are we not immune to those? Why does God allow us to get Cancer, go blind (of natural causes), go deaf of (natural causes), and so fourth. Why don't we all look exactly the same? Why are some people 7 feet tall and some people 5 feet tall, and so on a so fourth?
    Long story short. God allows it because he wants to show humans that they can't rule themselves. Which of course is true. And I'm sure there are many different factors that contribute to our differences, I don't think the Bible covers it but I doubt that's a reason to say that we evolved from an ape.

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    Long story short. God allows it because he wants to show humans that they can't rule themselves. Which of course is true. And I'm sure there are many different factors that contribute to our differences, I don't think the Bible covers it but I doubt that's a reason to say that we evolved from an ape.
    Genetic mutations are constantly happening, and the ones that benefit us are more likely to thrive and proliferate, the ones that don't are less likely to. You're probably less attracted to someone who was born with an auto-immune disease than you are to someone much healthier looking. This is evolution taking it's course, it's not random or God. Over millions of years, it only natural that the best of qualities are going to produce something (in this case a human being) that is very good but not perfect. We are a marvel because of evolution and we are flawed because we not made by God -- not because God "wants to show humans that they can't rule themselves" which is ridiculous.

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    Long story short. God allows it because he wants to show humans that they can't rule themselves. Which of course is true. And I'm sure there are many different factors that contribute to our differences, I don't think the Bible covers it but I doubt that's a reason to say that we evolved from an ape.
    Then why are we constantly making incremental progress against fighting those diseases? Evolution is about progress, not perfection. By your logic, we shouldn't have been allowed to discover the polio vaccine, for instance.

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    I have never known him to be a troll, and even less to be re ed or willfully ignorant, so there must be another explanation.
    Missed the episode, but still zero proof.
    Care to take a shot at that other explanation?

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    LOL people arguing with robdiaz when he's the Club equivalent to Wild Cobra.

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    LOL people arguing with robdiaz when he's the Club equivalent to Wild Cobra.
    It's not an argument as much as it is a one-sided schooling.

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    Hopefully we know where we actually came from before we all die, I wish that to all of you. People say, well go find a religion and spend your whole life devoted to it only and you'll be at peace. Others say well go read a book or inform yourself from scientists blah blah.

    Can you guys tell me how to find myself? My true self? I would like to do that because I know will find happiness.

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    Genetic mutations are constantly happening, and the ones that benefit us are more likely to thrive and proliferate, the ones that don't are less likely to. You're probably less attracted to someone who was born with an auto-immune disease than you are to someone much healthier looking. This is evolution taking it's course, it's not random or God. Over millions of years, it only natural that the best of qualities are going to produce something (in this case a human being) that is very good but not perfect. We are a marvel because of evolution and we are flawed because we not made by God -- not because God "wants to show humans that they can't rule themselves" which is ridiculous.
    This doesn't explain anything, and as far as schooling I don't see how. And don't all scientist claim that evolution has no purpose? Which is it? How is it ridiculous? How do you know that it isn't true? Because you believe everything happened by chance? Lol. Ridiculous. The Sun is the perfect distance to allow life on Earth, coincidence right?

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    Then why are we constantly making incremental progress against fighting those diseases? Evolution is about progress, not perfection. By your logic, we shouldn't have been allowed to discover the polio vaccine, for instance.
    Well because people aren't stupid, just because we can cure or treat some diseases doesn't mean that 1 day we will be able to rid ourselves of all diseases. Its impossible without God.

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    The Sun is the perfect distance to allow life on Earth, coincidence right?
    No, not a coincidence. A random event caused the sun to be a perfect distance from the Earth to allow life, and life on Earth was thus possible. Are you saying Earth was chosen by God to have life? Why didn't he put the sun the perfect distance from the other millions/billions of planets? Why did he choose Earth?...

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    Well because people aren't stupid, just because we can cure or treat some diseases doesn't mean that 1 day we will be able to rid ourselves of all diseases. Its impossible without God.
    So he allowed us to get diseases to prove we're not in control, but we're not stupid and so we can control some of the diseases? lol.. This God is not very bright, is he?

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    So far this is the best series I have ever seen on network TV.
    Why do you say that? I've tried to watch it twice but both times it seemed more like a CG jerk fest rather than a good science show, so I quit watching pretty quick. Did I judge it too quickly?

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