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    The true MVP of this team is Kawhi Leonard, thats all i got to say

    Yep. He gives us youth, speed, and the defender we have needed since Bowen retired.

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    Hate to say anything bad about this team here, but no. That 2012 team and that run at the end was EPIC. I've never had a bigger hard on for the Spurs and their chances than that year tbh. That run was absolutely unreal until the refs stepped in to make sure SA didn't advance to the Finals.

    Honestly, I think the Finals ratings would have been higher with the Spurs than OKC. Spurs were the hotter team and getting huge respect until Ref Gate. The Finals certainly would've lasted longer and been more competative had they gotten there.

    Anyway. . .this team is cool right now but that 2012 run. . .the Spurs looked as untouchable at the end of that season as I've ever seen a team since Jordan's Bulls in the late 90's.

    Refgate. Couldn't agree more. 2012 team was insane. The ball movement was staggering.


    Last year's team was better, 2012's team was more entertaining. No doubt i'll take the way we're playing now and how we played last year over 2012, but the ball movement and execution offensively during that 20 game win streak was the best basketball (offensively) i've ever seen.

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    Last year's team was better, 2012's team was more entertaining. No doubt i'll take the way we're playing now and how we played last year over 2012, but the ball movement and execution offensively during that 20 game win streak was the best basketball (offensively) i've ever seen.
    Couldn't agree more.

    Actually I'm not even sure 2012 was any weaker than 2013 and 2014... They just ran into a buzzsaw that was made to beat them... Perkins can only defend great 5, he's useless against Miami but at peak value vs Duncan... Ibaka+Sefo are the best TP defenders you can find basically... Harden could easily match Manu... And then you have Durant and Chuckbrook who only had to play one end of the floor...

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    Yeah that Spurs team probably would have won the championship that year, but that still doesn't mean I think they are better than this years team or last years. They really weren't all that great defensively, not bad either but just not great.

    Smh I still hate that Jack's effort was wasted that game. I know things ended on a bitter note and a lot of people here resent him now, but even including his role in our 03 championship his game 6 in that series is my favorite Jack memory ever. Even in a losing effort. The fact that he said we'd be ready to go and we'd put up a fight only to have his best game of the season while being unconscious from outside really validated the making love to pressure thing for me.

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    Refgate. Couldn't agree more. 2012 team was insane. The ball movement was staggering.
    I still think our 2012 team's ball movement was far and away the best of all spurs teams. It felt magical at times.

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    2013 Spurs > 2012 Spurs imo

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    the unforgettable win streak for me was 17, 13 at end of season + sweep of Grizz, then the 0.3 and Lakers

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    I think this years team is better, I'm just saying the way there rolling blowing teams out. We'll see how it play out this season.

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    12 WCF whistles was ref bull that the spurs really didn't have to deal with for the most part in the 13 playoffs imo tbh

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    Jack could have been the difference maker last year when Manu was struggling. TMac just never earned Pop's trust.

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    Things have changed. There's a new force most people are ignoring in the West: Clippers. It's not the lob city shtick any more, because with the additions of Granger and Davis, and how Griffin is beasting this season, and with a healthy Chris Paul and Doc over Vinny, you cannot even come close to counting these guys out. I hope they face the Thunder before facing us but I don't think so.

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    Things have changed. There's a new force most people are ignoring in the West: Clippers. It's not the lob city shtick any more, because with the additions of Granger and Davis, and how Griffin is beasting this season, and with a healthy Chris Paul and Doc over Vinny, you cannot even come close to counting these guys out. I hope they face the Thunder before facing us but I don't think so.
    Disagree. Spurs in six games max...

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    Houston though, because of matchups, it's a tossup, IMO

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    I think this years team is better, I'm just saying the way there rolling blowing teams out. We'll see how it play out this season.
    They are blowing out teams they should blow out, and the Heat just got off a slump where really bad teams beat them. We cannot take anything from that win, really. Not saying we didn't play well, just that because of their struggles, it's not a measuring stick for us to be one of the teams that beat them during that time.

    I like how we are playing, Tiago is playing great, very aggressive, and the team is moving well. I fear an injury soon though, too wild and too much cutting between defenders and too many bodies in the paint going for boards.... someone is going to turn an ankle in a meaningless game.

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    Disagree. Spurs in six games max...
    Not saying they could beat the Spurs, but I'd hate to face them and OKC in b2b series.

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    Things have changed. There's a new force most people are ignoring in the West: Clippers. It's not the lob city shtick any more, because with the additions of Granger and Davis, and how Griffin is beasting this season, and with a healthy Chris Paul and Doc over Vinny, you cannot even come close to counting these guys out. I hope they face the Thunder before facing us but I don't think so.
    Actually, a pretty good chance OKC and the Clippers meet in the 2nd round especially if the Spurs can distance themselves a lil more from the Thunder.

    And I agree with Nono, the Spurs would still roll them IMO.

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    I would agree with DeMarcusCousins that you can't draw a lot of conclusions from these games... playoffs are a completely different animal and style of play. It's still great we're healthy and we're gunning for HCA, but you can't get too ahead of yourself.

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    Jack could have been the difference maker last year when Manu was struggling. TMac just never earned Pop's trust.
    Just because you had a losing hand doesn't mean another card from the deck would have given you a winning one, but it seems that anything different and the Spurs would have been champs. The other side of that is they might have lost in 6 games or even 5. Maybe they don't beat the Warriors. Who knows?

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    Not saying they could beat the Spurs, but I'd hate to face them and OKC in b2b series.
    Well, sure, but at that point, we're talking 2nd round/WCF... nothing comes easy... though I still think LAC/OKC is better than HOU/OKC... the last two are the only teams I see that could give the Spurs a run for their money.

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    interesting comparison.

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    Well, sure, but at that point, we're talking 2nd round/WCF... nothing comes easy... though I still think LAC/OKC is better than HOU/OKC... the last two are the only teams I see that could give the Spurs a run for their money.
    I think you are discounting how good the Clippers will be come playoff time. They start fast, and pile up points in a hurry. The Spurs often start slow, so that could have them in a hole and finding a way out in at least a couple games. , we had to dig out of a huge hole against them a few years back, a couple times I think. Not sure we could do that with the bench they'll have, and a system other than "play harder".

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    I think you are discounting how good the Clippers will be come playoff time. They start fast, and pile up points in a hurry. The Spurs often start slow, so that could have them in a hole and finding a way out in at least a couple games. , we had to dig out of a huge hole against them a few years back, a couple times I think. Not sure we could do that with the bench they'll have, and a system other than "play harder".
    I posted it before, but IMO, they have not addresses their main problem, and that is they don't have a secondary quality playmaker (anybody else really) to create when CP3 eventually gets bottled up. It happened to them against us and Memphis. Once that happens, they become extremely beatable. Granger and Big Baby don't help in that area.

    I also always thought Doc is a severely overrated coach, but gave him the benefit of the doubt to see if he could establish a semblance of defense, and he has not. The Clippers were ranked 9th in defensive efficiency last season and are currently ranked 8th. looking at the actual the number, they're exactly the same defensive team as last season.

    They made a small gain on offense (4th last season vs 2nd this season), but that's the first thing that drops when the playoffs roll around.

    Obviously, I could be wrong. Nothing is guaranteed before the games are played, but there's nothing in that team telling me they're any different.

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    I will actually go ahead and say I'm not even sure the Clippers beat Memphis if they find themselves playing them again...

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    Things have changed. There's a new force most people are ignoring in the West: Clippers. It's not the lob city shtick any more, because with the additions of Granger and Davis, and how Griffin is beasting this season, and with a healthy Chris Paul and Doc over Vinny, you cannot even come close to counting these guys out. I hope they face the Thunder before facing us but I don't think so.
    Spurs would still wreck our , just a bad matchup for us, tbh....

    For the record, our defensive stats are pretty deceiving, because the horrible start to the season on that end deflates them.... recently, the team has finally started to get a hang of the new defensive system and is playing far better defensively.... and Blake is absolutely a playmaker, he proved that while CP3 was out.... , CP3 was bottled up against the Warriors recently and we still won, I don't think that's the problem against the Spurs and Memphis as much as those teams simply being bad matchups...

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    Spurs would still wreck our , just a bad matchup for us, tbh....

    For the record, our defensive stats are pretty deceiving, because the horrible start to the season on that end deflates them.... recently, the team has finally started to get a hang of the new defensive system and is playing far better defensively.... and Blake is absolutely a playmaker, he proved that while CP3 was out....
    Sorry CN, but numbers don't back it up. Since Feb 1st, you've played 19 games, and given up 100+ pts in 9 of them (or about half). Most of the high scoring games were against top teams (Miami, San Antonio, OKC, Portland, etc). The only top team you've held under 100 is Houston.

    And no, Griffin is not a play maker. I'm not talking about a guy you give the ball to and tell him to score (that's what ISO Crawford does). I'm talking a player that gets everyone involved. Jamal isn't that guy, Griffin isn't that guy and Collison isn't that guy either.

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