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    So he allowed us to get diseases to prove we're not in control, but we're not stupid and so we can control some of the diseases? lol.. This God is not very bright, is he?
    You can read the Bible if you're interested. Don't think you can live your life without any judgement. Your day will come. And diseases are part of imperfection. We would live forever if we were perfect and without diseases or aging. But it happens. Why are you so afraid of God?

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    No, not a coincidence. A random event caused the sun to be a perfect distance from the Earth to allow life, and life on Earth was thus possible. Are you saying Earth was chosen by God to have life? Why didn't he put the sun the perfect distance from the other millions/billions of planets? Why did he choose Earth?...
    Random event. Lol.

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    You can read the Bible if you're interested. Don't think you can live your life without any judgement. Your day will come. And diseases are part of imperfection. We would live forever if we were perfect and without diseases or aging. But it happens. Why are you so afraid of God?
    Afraid, lol? I just implied that he is not very bright.

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    Happens all the time. You think that every star that goes supernova or every astroid that crashes into another astroid is directed by the hand of God?

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    So it happens all the time and has been for billions of years and yet life only exist on Earth, hmmm. Solid reasoning.

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    So it happens all the time and has been for billions of years and yet life only exist on Earth, hmmm. Solid reasoning.
    Life only exists on Earth? That's quite an assertion. What is that based on? We've stepped foot on exactly zero other planets. How do you know?

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    Life only exists on Earth? That's quite an assertion. What is that based on? We've stepped foot on exactly zero other planets. How do you know?
    How do you know God doesn't exist? How do you know he isn't out there? If you believe in life on other planets how can you say God isn't on another planet?

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    Can you guys tell me how to find myself? My true self? I would like to do that because I know will find happiness.
    Get a non-reversing mirror.

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    First define "God."

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    How do you know God doesn't exist? How do you know he isn't out there? If you believe in life on other planets how can you say God isn't on another planet?
    I didn't say I believe in life on other planets. I think there is probably life on other planets because the probability of there being life on other planets seems extraordinarily high given how big the universe is.

    Life on this planet was made possible, in part, because the conditions were right. I can see life all around me and that is evidence that with the right conditions, life can exist. This leads me to believe that if there is a high probability of similar conditions exiting elsewhere in the universe that there is almost certainly life elsewhere too. I see no evidence of God on Earth or anywhere else, so I have no reason to believe that there is a God on another planet.

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    Why do you say that? I've tried to watch it twice but both times it seemed more like a CG jerk fest rather than a good science show, so I quit watching pretty quick. Did I judge it too quickly?
    I think it's a good science show by network TV standards. It's obviously not going to go in depth into HR diagrams, the hairy details of nuclear fusion in stars, things like that, but if you're looking for that, this coursera course is surprisingly great despite being algebra based and not calculus based.
    http://www.coursera.org/course/introastro

    Or if you know all that stuff already, here's a real Caltech course on galaxies and cosmology if you know some ODE + classical mechanics + a little quantum physics + e&m + special relativity
    https://www.coursera.org/course/cosmo

    I guess you're turned off by the CGI, but I think it's pretty interesting to show the world things like the rings of Saturn being tons of tiny balls of ice or that the observed universe has filamentary symmetry at megaparsec scales. Or that parts of the universe can look completely different in the infrared spectrum as opposed to in visible light. I loved the contrast between evolution by artificial selection used to create the dog from the wolf vs evolution by natural selection creating the eye in tonight's episode. It's the best popular science I have seen on a major network. If you count PBS as one of the major networks though, the Mechanical Universe (which I posted an episode of above) would be my favorite scientific programming, though some of the episodes have too much history.
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    Why we still got treez

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    Show ain't without Carl Sagan. It'll have a nice run though.

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    Don't think you can live your life without any judgement. Your day will come.
    So when yours comes, what will God say about your ungodly behavior on this messageboard?

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    All the science in the world has no effect om my faith. None.

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    All the science in the world has no effect om my faith. None.
    How sad.

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    Get a non-reversing mirror.
    Well that was quite the answer, I'm not really sure how that its gonna help.

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    what uganda do about it? Joseph Kony's Avatar
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    All the science in the world has no effect om my faith. None.
    Just proves that you don't actually believe, you just really wanna believe there is a "point" to your existence (which is apparently worshiping a narcissistic being for all eternity )

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    what uganda do about it? Joseph Kony's Avatar
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    I mean seriously, you're basically saying mother ers could find indisputable 100% proof there is no god (obviously just a scenario) and you would still force yourself to believe there is just because you're, ultimately, afraid at an instinctual level, of death and have an immense desire for the continuation of your existence. really sad

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    yet you still have no proof? theory is your God....I believe in God because of science
    What do I need proof of?

    If you want proof that cells exist, there is more than enough evidence to be had, and working usable theories.

    I can, and have seen for myself in classes and outside of them, evidence supporting the existance of cells.

    Modern biology and medicine is predicated on this theory being correct, and the evidence we have gathered so far has confirmed, or been predicted by cell theory.

    I guess you think you are being cute by trying to equate the two, or maybe they are even equal in your mind.

    The only way that can be is if you really, truly don't even begin to understand the science and logical principles underpinning it. Yet another Donning-Kruger poster child, like the faked moon landing thread wasn't enough for the forum.

    Would you say you have good reasons to believe in God? If so, what are they?

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    Who knows tbh, Someone better versed in science may be able to answer that question.


    this should be your auto response for all questions directed at you tbh

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    I think it's a good science show by network TV standards. It's obviously not going to go in depth into HR diagrams, the hairy details of nuclear fusion in stars, things like that, but if you're looking for that, this coursera course is surprisingly great despite being algebra based and not calculus based.
    http://www.coursera.org/course/introastro

    Or if you know all that stuff already, here's a real Caltech course on galaxies and cosmology if you know some ODE + classical mechanics + a little quantum physics + e&m + special relativity
    https://www.coursera.org/course/cosmo

    I guess you're turned off by the CGI, but I think it's pretty interesting to show the world things like the rings of Saturn being tons of tiny balls of ice or that the observed universe has filamentary symmetry at megaparsec scales. Or that parts of the universe can look completely different in the infrared spectrum as opposed to in visible light. I loved the contrast between evolution by artificial selection used to create the dog from the wolf vs evolution by natural selection creating the eye in tonight's episode. It's the best popular science I have seen on a major network. If you count PBS as one of the major networks though, the Mechanical Universe (which I posted an episode of above) would be my favorite scientific programming, though some of the episodes have too much history.
    Thanks. I recorded the first two episodes today on ngc, so I'll give it another shot. Maybe it's just the slow intro that I don't like.

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    Why? Science has not proven God does not exist. Period

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    Just proves that you don't actually believe, you just really wanna believe there is a "point" to your existence (which is apparently worshiping a narcissistic being for all eternity )
    It proves that my faith is strong. Science hasn't proven there is no God. Carry on my wayward sons.

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    Why? Science has not proven God does not exist. Period
    if your god is Bible god, I can pretty much prove Bible God does not exist.
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