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    Blake destroying The Reckoning

    talking to jeebo s for fun is a lot less of a sacrifice than wasting 10% of your income on Pastor Haggey's Ferrari fund.

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    Actually we are converted to pure energy. Nothing goes away, it just changes forms.
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    Actually we are converted to pure energy. Nothing goes away, it just changes forms.
    Information society - pure energy: http://youtu.be/lRyHZccoAsk

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    Actually we are converted to pure energy. Nothing goes away, it just changes forms.

    oh god more afterlife talk.

    but energy can't be destroyed. such a misuse of scientific law. if dead things to to heaven, what energy are newborn babies from, using that same train of thought?
    Haha, not only misuse of a scientific law, but misusing a law that isn't even correct except locally in short time periods. Energy absolutely can be destroyed. The expansion of the universe stretches a photon as it travels through space, redshifting it to a lower frequency. Since the energy of a photon is given by E = h*f, where h is the Planck constant and f is the frequency, the energy of the photon thus decreases from the cosmological redshift (e.g., the expansion of space). I mean this is absolutely undeniable from looking at emission spectra from distant galaxies.

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    Blake destroying The Reckoning

    talking to jeebo s for fun is a lot less of a sacrifice than wasting 10% of your income on Pastor Haggey's Ferrari fund.

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    All Hail the Legatron The Reckoning's Avatar
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    I'd say it takes just a few seconds to type lol.

    But I find it sad that people get suckered by churches to give 10% or more of their earnings to the lawd their entire lives.

    ...not to mention getting up early on Sunday mornings......what a waste.

    i agree tbh.

    i guess what the internet has proven through anonymity is that people are at heart selfish, primitive beings and that there is no moral code embedded in our genes. everything is through reciprocal altruism or the belief that we will be punished in the afterlife by some flying spaghetti monster. i'ts really not worth my time or any others'.
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    you do realize one of the major proponents of the big bang theory was a catholic priest, right?
    Sounds like something to do with an alterboy.

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    i agree tbh.

    i guess what the internet has proven through anonymity is that people are at heart selfish, primitive beings and that there is no moral code embedded in our genes. everything is through reciprocal altruism or the belief that we will be punished in the afterlife by some flying spaghetti monster. i'ts really not worth my time or any others'.
    pretty limited scope of things, but ok.

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    I wish God/Jesus were true. Just can't be fooled anymore.
    maybe death will finally end your pain

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    When the God hating Darwin worshipers.... argue with naive Bible supporting sheep? the intelligent Alternative Design people relax..... grab a beer, and watch the show.


    https://www.facebook.com/pages/AD-Al...21129644726154


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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    When the God hating Darwin worshipers.... argue with naive Bible supporting sheep? the intelligent Alternative Design people relax..... grab a beer, and watch the show.
    why lie? The (only) alternative design person does anything but relax and watch.

    He spams the thread with YouTubes, jpegs, and copy/paste directly from Bible beating creation websites.

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    That clip will never not be greatness

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    I don't see how this proves or disproves anything when it comes to the non-existence or existence of God.
    Why do people seem to want to bring God into every argument or new discovery of science?
    You can contradict anything and everything if you want to, but that is useless and a waste of valuable time IMHO.
    As far as I know no one can prove the non-existence or existence of God, so why bring it up in light of this new discovery?
    This discovery does not lend validation to either premise, nor was it intended to.
    This discovery is what it is, and no more. And it has nothing to do with the notion of God.

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    Donde esta DMC cuando necesitamos el?

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    I don't see how this proves or disproves anything when it comes to the non-existence or existence of God.
    Why do people seem to want to bring God into every argument or new discovery of science?
    You can contradict anything and everything if you want to, but that is useless and a waste of valuable time IMHO.
    As far as I know no one can prove the non-existence or existence of God, so why bring it up in light of this new discovery?
    This discovery does not lend validation to either premise, nor was it intended to.
    This discovery is what it is, and no more. And it has nothing to do with the notion of God.
    The existential claim for an omniscient god does indeed have conditions that can be disproven if the god itself can be defined. The non existing cannot be defined, except through make believe. Even that, though, can be disproven as many claims are disproven on a regular basis.

    It's not the god that's being disproven here, but the religion, the Bible itself. Try as some may to magically morph long held dogma into analogy or parable in an attempt to extend some semblance of credibility to it, if it's show to be not true it's simply not true, and everything after that is meaningless. However, since the society we live in is under the thumb of religion in almost everything we do, it's of paramount importance to stop playing adult invisible friend games for purposes of crowd control, self gratification and the selfish concept of eternal existence of conscience.

    You're being cowardly about it by claiming it's a waste to question the existence of a god, that nothing can be solved, yet you don't seem to take issue with the fact that in order to deny existence, the claim has to be made. The claim has been made, therefore it's just that we set out to disprove it since not a single god believer can offer up one iota of evidence to support the claim, but like you pretend it's a futile endeavor to try to disprove it.

    Yes, the Big Bang shoots holes through creation, not that creation was ever a valid argument in the first place, but it's always been "well, we don't know... so why can't it be...". Now we know. Can you push this god back into another role, cover him with camouflage and deny that he's been disproven? Sure, you can act like a got. It doesn't change the fact that theists are scared less that there is no god. How shall they know not to murder in the streets and rape their own young? Wait... that wouldn't change theists much since God sanctions it.

    Assume man knows nothing about the Bible but had to write a book today on how everything came about, how we came to be, who we are... without asking "why?" I'd think that book would look nothing like the Bible. That's because those who wrote the Bible believed the Earth was flat, that donkeys could talk, that demons were possessing people and could be cast into swine and sent over a cliff. They believed a virgin could be impregnated by an invisible sky ruler and that the offspring would be the same guy in human form, who had to eventually die because he had a debt to pay himself for others disobeying him. All this was happening while this all knowing sky dude was just getting over killing everyone on the planet, except an old dude and his kids. I mean, babies and all were not worthy of being saved because there wasn't one just person, not even a child. Those people weren't real big on the scientific method.
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    The existential claim for an omniscient god does indeed have conditions that can be disproven if the god itself can be defined. The non existing cannot be defined, except through make believe. Even that, though, can be disproven as many claims are disproven on a regular basis.

    It's not the god that's being disproven here, but the religion, the Bible itself. Try as some may to magically morph long held dogma into analogy or parable in an attempt to extend some semblance of credibility to it, if it's show to be not true it's simply not true, and everything after that is meaningless. However, since the society we live in is under the thumb of religion in almost everything we do, it's of paramount importance to stop playing adult invisible friend games for purposes of crowd control, self gratification and the selfish concept of eternal existence of conscience.

    You're being cowardly about it by claiming it's a waste to question the existence of a god, that nothing can be solved, yet you don't seem to take issue with the fact that in order to deny existence, the claim has to be made. The claim has been made, therefore it's just that we set out to disprove it since not a single god believer can offer up one iota of evidence to support the claim, but like you pretend it's a futile endeavor to try to disprove it.

    Yes, the Big Bang shoots holes through creation, not that creation was ever a valid argument in the first place, but it's always been "well, we don't know... so why can't it be...". Now we know. Can you push this god back into another role, cover him with camouflage and deny that he's been disproven? Sure, you can act like a got. It doesn't change the fact that theists are scared less that there is no god. How shall they know not to murder in the streets and rape their own young? Wait... that wouldn't change theists much since God sanctions it.
    lol @ this major fail. and Gd has not been disproved

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    lol @ this major fail. and Gd has not been disproved
    Which one?

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    pretty sure he's referring to the flying spaghetti monster

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    The existential claim for an omniscient god does indeed have conditions that can be disproven if the god itself can be defined. The non existing cannot be defined, except through make believe. Even that, though, can be disproven as many claims are disproven on a regular basis.

    It's not the god that's being disproven here, but the religion, the Bible itself. Try as some may to magically morph long held dogma into analogy or parable in an attempt to extend some semblance of credibility to it, if it's show to be not true it's simply not true, and everything after that is meaningless. However, since the society we live in is under the thumb of religion in almost everything we do, it's of paramount importance to stop playing adult invisible friend games for purposes of crowd control, self gratification and the selfish concept of eternal existence of conscience.

    You're being cowardly about it by claiming it's a waste to question the existence of a god, that nothing can be solved, yet you don't seem to take issue with the fact that in order to deny existence, the claim has to be made. The claim has been made, therefore it's just that we set out to disprove it since not a single god believer can offer up one iota of evidence to support the claim, but like you pretend it's a futile endeavor to try to disprove it.

    Yes, the Big Bang shoots holes through creation, not that creation was ever a valid argument in the first place, but it's always been "well, we don't know... so why can't it be...". Now we know. Can you push this god back into another role, cover him with camouflage and deny that he's been disproven? Sure, you can act like a got. It doesn't change the fact that theists are scared less that there is no god. How shall they know not to murder in the streets and rape their own young? Wait... that wouldn't change theists much since God sanctions it.

    Assume man knows nothing about the Bible but had to write a book today on how everything came about, how we came to be, who we are... without asking "why?" I'd think that book would look nothing like the Bible. That's because those who wrote the Bible believed the Earth was flat, that donkeys could talk, that demons were possessing people and could be cast into swine and sent over a cliff. They believed a virgin could be impregnated by an invisible sky ruler and that the offspring would be the same guy in human form, who had to eventually die because he had a debt to pay himself for others disobeying him. All this was happening while this all knowing sky dude was just getting over killing everyone on the planet, except an old dude and his kids. I mean, babies and all were not worthy of being saved because there wasn't one just person, not even a child. Those people weren't real big on the scientific method.

    Look, if you have your childish, and what I would describe as insecure, issues with the bible, then that is you. Don't try to pawn them off on me, or for that matter anyone else who freely chooses to believe in God. That is for each and every individual to wrestle with in their own private ways. It is not for you to decide for them anymore than it is them to decide for you. The bible is what it is regardless of what you describe or what you wish it would be. IMHO it was never intended to be interpreted literally, but that is just how I feel about the book in general.
    And wrong, my original statement stands as I wrote it and just because you do not approve, your assertion in no way disproves it despite a feeble and immature attempt to do so. Next time try using some mature arguments instead of resorting to childish invectives and immature ridicule to get your point across. Maybe then you wouldn't be considered a fool and thus taken seriously.
    A word to the wise, if such can be said about you, make your arguments cohesive and to the point sans the ridicule next time because the way you have made them show your basic ignorance.
    You may have some valid points, but those points end up negated by your childish foolishness.
    If you are incapable of debating a simple issue without resorting to childishness then you are wasting your and my time because you will never be able to convince anyone other than kindergardeners of anything noteworthy.
    Sorry, I had to put you in your place, but someone has to do it. May as well be me.
    Next time try debating in a civil manner, or go back to kindergarten.
    I have no patience with trolls.
    And I repeat, this new discovery puts NO HOLES in the belief in God which was what I said, and just because you say it puts holes in creation, only serves to show you know very little about that theory and no more. You may criticize creation theory all you want to. , I criticize it too. You can't lump all Christians together no matter how much you may wish you could because we are as diverse as the stars.
    The same applies to God.
    I don't be so dense to try to tell you what and how to believe. Be so kind as to do the same for me.
    If you can't handle that, then suffer the consequences.
    But for sure you will never ever convince anyone of anything by resorting to immature childish ridicule.
    You should have learned this by kindergarten. But then some kids never learn.
    And disrespect will be met with laughter and disrespect.

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    ^Your formatting is re ed. Are you writing everything from a cell phone?

    lol writing a novel just to say "I don't care"

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    Science has never really proven the earth is even a Million years old and they have the nerve to put 4.6 Billion in the texts books?
    insane .

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    >has no patience with trolls
    >spends 99% of his day on ST talking to or complaining about them

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    >has no patience with trolls
    >spends 99% of his day on ST talking to or complaining about them
    I guess you spend most of your days confused.
    I don't communicate with them, I bash them.
    It's all you idiots deserve.
    Civil communication?
    No way, not even close.
    And I laugh AT, not WITH, you baffoons all a lot.

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