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    dan, I am asking you a direct question.

    Please answer.

    Why would the Saudi government want to attack the US, dan?

    Because they are freedom-hating Muslims...

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    Because they are freedom-hating Muslims...
    Seriously?

    This is your thesis after 12 years?

    lol

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    Saudi Arabia Ordered to Face Claims Over Sept. 11 Attacks
    Source: Bloomberg

    Lawsuits claiming Saudi Arabia aided al-Qaeda and should be held liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were revived by a U.S. appeals court.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals in Manhattan today said a lower-court judge “rested on an error of law” in rejecting a request to reopen the cases against the country’s government and an affiliated charity.

    The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Saudi High Commission for Relief of Bosnia and Herzegovina won a ruling dismissing them from the lawsuits on the grounds that a foreign government is immune from suit. Subsequently, the appeals court made inconsistent rulings on whether the terrorism claims made in the case fall under sovereign-immunity rule, according to today’s opinion.

    The lower-court judge should have granted a request to re-open the cases in order to allow the inconsistency to be addressed, the appeals court said.
    Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...1-attacks.html



    This will go nowhere...but I would love to see the discovery process in this case...Condi lied under oath when she claimed that the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo... was "not a warning".

    I guess you weren't paying attention. The memo warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks inside the US.

    Dr. Philip Zelikow, Condi's buddy and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, was overheard telephoning the CIA authors of the memo and asking them to corroborate Condi's statement. (See Shenon, p. 374) They refused.

    There were warnings from `13 foreign countries, and 4 FBI offices. The CIA briefed Condi on 5/30 and 7/10 about the dire nature of the al Qaeda threat. Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted on their warnings, 9/11 might have been prevented. Cofer Black said they did everything but pull the trigger to the gun they were holding to her head....
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    Despite refusing to release these incriminating do ents... We already know Banshire Bush's wife was writing checks for benefactors of known al Qaeda agents inside the USA--Nawaf al Hazmi and Khalid al Mihdhar.

    Al Mihdhar was here in the USA, then he went to Yemen and lived for a year in a known al Qaeda communications hub that was monitored both by the NSA and the CIA and also by audio bugs.

    Then he returned to the USA, no problem, and he and al Hazmi were both known by the CIA and the FBI to be in the country. There was a debate within the FBI about whether they should open an intel investigation or a full-scale criminal investigation. They decided on an intel investigation and assigned one rookie to the job. Within a few days he was asking if he could run a credit-card check on them to see what they were up to, but his superior, Dina Corsi, discouraged him. Bob Woodward said that if this credit card check had been run it would have revealed that al Mihdhar and al Hazmi together bought ten airline tickets dated 9/11/01 under their own real names.

    The only explanation (former counterterrorism czar) Richard Clarke could offer for this up was that CIA had a hands-off policy on these two because they were hoping to recruit them as double agents.

    Senator Bob Graham is on the edge of telling America the real story and where to look to find out more. Snowden likely does have enough metadata files to not only connect high level political business people but military with deep foreign participation. As Bush and Cheney profiteered it is very compelling from an insider view as being too big to fail with good reason to get in the action. It is now easy to see from an outside view that minimally the whole Iraq war was a lie. It is even reported by many in the media as a lie. However, no one in the media has the courage or can openly be honest because of the media muzzle.

    It is all tied together with very prominent high level very well liked senior members of Congress, the Senate, Judiciary, Military, Business, Banking, Wall Street, and especially Mainstream Media. Did I leave anything out? Yes, those secret mercenary types, or even former CIA, FBI, NSA, you name it for any American, foreign agency, if the money is there and it is someone will fill the job.

    This was long time to formulate it did not happen over-night. Too big to fail penetrates the banking system it is loaded with the real reason America failed the electorate because of foreign influence with Congress and Senate people getting rich while America suffers decline.

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    Saudi-Sized Cracks in the 9/11 Wall of Silence - redacted Bush report.

    The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.

    More...
    http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/12/19/sau...ll-of-silence/

    So....I guess if Al Queda was heavily invested in the US stock market the way the Kingdom is 911 would have been an 'inconvenience"

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    So is this your actual angle now?

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    Yay MOAR YOUTUBES!!!!!!

    Have to love it when even after all these years, cosmo is still incapable of articulating a meaningful argument on this subject.

    If that bull is a tribunal then so are we because they are sanctioned by nobody but hey they fit the confirmation bias so trot them out anyway! Am I right or what?

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    The case was closed a long time ago. You shills just won't recognize it.

    "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor" - Full version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...911+truth&sm=1

    The craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm
    (5th picture from top)


    This do entary explains the motives.
    http://topdo entaryfilms.com/new-american-century/
    So you double down on the stupidity. NICE!!!

    I have no interest in being spoonfed my takes by anonymous youtubes and blogs. topdo entaryfilms

    What I find particularly entertaining is how you try this tact and then call other people shills. Beat them to that punch and maybe they will be distracted, eh?

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    So Cosmo, are you affiliated with any of these youtube, do entary, and/or blogs that you spam for us?

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    The case was closed a long time ago. You shills just won't recognize it.

    "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor" - Full version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...911+truth&sm=1

    The craft that hit the Pentagon was too short to be a 757.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm
    (5th picture from top)


    This do entary explains the motives.
    http://topdo entaryfilms.com/new-american-century/
    Why don't you explain it all in your own words and save us the time?

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    I have no interest in being spoonfed my takes by anonymous youtubes and blogs. topdo entaryfilms
    That's right you prefer fox news to stay misinformed.

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    Obviously on the core column and trusses on the lower floors....

    I thought dealing with the misguided in here was bad you should see the bozos on YouTube.

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    Much clearer view of WTC7 collapse...squib lines?

    So do you think they are "squib lines"?

    Yes or no.

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    That's right you prefer fox news to stay misinformed.
    Homie, I don't even watch TV outside of sports much less that shizzee.

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    Yeah, nobody ever comes forward to challenge the official story...



    NSA Insiders Reveal What Went Wrong on and before/after "9/11"

    Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) is a group of current and former officials of the United States Intelligence Community, including some from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the U.S. State Department's Intelligence Bureau (INR), and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). It was formed in January 2003 as a "coast-to-coast enterprise" to protest the use of faulty intelligence "upon which the US/UK invasion of Iraq was based." The group issued a letter before the 2003 invasion of Iraq stating that intelligence analysts were not being listened to by policy makers.


    by Former NSA Senior Executives & Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

    In a memo to President Obama, former National Security Agency insiders explain how NSA leaders botched intelligence collection and analysis before 9/11, covered up the mistakes, and violated the cons utional rights of the American people, all while wasting billions of dollars and misleading the public.


    We were there; we know what happened. And we know how what happened has been successfully covered up – until now. Calamities like this tend to happen again if there is no accountability for what happened before. You need the unvarnished truth. The flood of revelations now in the public domain frees us to address facts and events formerly hidden behind a convenient, cover-up classification regime. We feel bound by the solemn oath we took to support and defend the Cons ution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to make truths known to you that you may find as unconscionable as we do.
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/08-0

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    So what do they say really happened on 9/11?

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    dont know why the govt decide to take out 4000 t axpayers....

    certainly they couldve flown the planes into prisons, does everyone a favor....gets rid of menaces of society, and people wont give 2 s about it....

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    Chumpy won't watch it, but you should...

    The Al Qaeda and the Saudi Agenda



    Toby Jones tells Paul Jay that the Saudis use of terrorism is driven by a fear of democracy and a desire to be the regional and oil hegemony.

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    Nbadan won't tell you what he thinks really happened on 9/11 because he is afraid.

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    There is alot of bull in the 911 Commission report, but one of the saddest is the theory that a pilot who couldn't fly a single engine plane just a few months before and another who got his pilot license suspended because he was such a poor pilot,on 911 all of the sudden could fly a much more complicated multi-jet plane plus, hit targets on the ground to boot.....what bull ...


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    Just how good a pilot does one need to be to crash a plane, dan?

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    Just how good a pilot does one need to be to crash a plane, dan?
    Crash a plane into a target on the ground? Pretty damn good...

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    This is a must-watch.....Very thoughtful, provocative interview, and Sen. Graham is very straight forward. Here's an exchange:



    GRAHAM: Well, I think there was some of that. We had a situation during our investigation, which was also conducted during the year 2002, in which we became aware (not because the FBI had told us; in fact, they had specifically withheld this information) that there were two of the earliest hijackers to enter the United States who were living in San Diego, and in their files in San Diego they had information about these people, but the FBI claimed they didn't have the information at the central office in Washington. Over the objection of the FBI, we sent staff to San Diego, and they came up with a trove of information about these people and the close ties between individuals, in some cases, who were employees of the government of Saudi Arabia; in other cases, they were nationals of Saudi Arabia and had su ious affiliations.

    One of those in particular was a retired university professor. He happened not to be a Saudi. He actually was an Indian of Muslim profession who operated a boarding house, and two of his residents were these two future hijackers. At the same time, he was on the payroll of the FBI as an asset to collect information about what were these students that he had formally had in his classroom and that were living in San Diego, attending various universities there, what were they up to.

    JAY: Right.

    GRAHAM: You have this anomaly that two of the people who are going to be involved in killing more than 3,000 people on September 11 were living in the home of a person who was also being paid by the FBI.

    JAY: Right. Senator, we're going to link—when we show this story, we are going to link to our interview series we did with you where we go into quite a bit of detail about all of that.

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