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I used to watch a ton of vintage NBA in summer camps when I was a kid. I would get dropped off early and it was always playing in the auditorium. My father was a big Knicks fan around that time as my uncles were Lakers fans. I get my takes from there and use reference when I want specifics.
The montage. Its every made basket from a sample of games. Footage in the early 60s is especially sparse but it gives yo a great idea as to his game. The rebounding portion is particularly impressive.
1962, 69, 70 finals went to 7 games so I didnt make anything up, that's 3 series, and his best one came in the closest one he came winning to in '69 where some statpadder ending up dropping the 5th highest finals series ppg of alltime.
Yeah. He seems to do much better with a dominant big drawing all the defensive attention.
And tied with Antoine Walker for les with one
That big was so dominant that series that some 6-6 guard grabbed the same amount of rebounds...
So le count is all that matters? These spurfans...
Deuce doesn't understand that stat padding is getting big stats and still losing. Jerry West is perhaps the greatest stat padder of all time under that definition. Full of sound and fury signifying nothing. 9 finals. Lost 2 out of three games and only a single le.
Your the one saying that you value playoffs most. He lost 2/3 of his finals games. That is terrible.
Around the 4:20 mark Jerry West says that Chamberlain was the team leader and the one everyone looked up to. Even West himself knew who the man was.
lol putting Bill Russell in a pedestal. You mustn't have watched Olajuwon or Shaq in their prime
Let's get real here. Wilt dominated when only Europe and America knew how to play basketball. Put a prime Shaq, Olajuwon, or Duncan on Wilt and let's see if he's going to put up the same numbers.
People here are massively overrating Russell. He dominated when the league was small and when players still had to maintain day jobs just to make ends meet. Russell would be solid in today's NBA but he wouldn't be as successful. It's more difficult to be successful in today's NBA because of the sheer compe ion both in and out of the US.
The Spurs had to get Bruce Bowen just to contain a prime Kobe. Looking back, I would pick Kobe over Russell and Wilt if I'm going to build a team in the 60s. It's a no-brainer, tbh.
From this video alone, Wilt's 'post' game consisted of jumping over everyone and dunking the ball. Wilt's footwork is so atrocious to say the least.
I think you need to get real about the quality of big men in the NBA. There has never been more than a handful of quality 7 footers at any one time. Sure Olajuwon had to play Robinson but there was also Ostertagg and a whole bunch of guys undersized for the position. Shaq beat up on guys like Chris Dudley and Shawn Bradley.
1967 Wilt would be the MVP of the current NBA. 2001 Shaq 2005 Duncan 1995 Olajuwon would have all been pushed around. Olajuwon and Duncan would have used quickness to get their shot off but both would not have been able to keep Chamberlain from getting down low and they would not have been able to stop his shots. They would have needed double team help like Jabbar, Unseld, Bellamy, etc.
Shaq would have struggled because Chamberlain was almost as big, much quicker and stronger. O'Neal's game was about pushing smaller players around. Lower the shoulder and ram. That wouldn't work against Chamberlain. O'Neal did not have exceptionally good footwork or ballhandling. He didn't have a jumpshot. If you are stronger than Shaq then you win. Watch that youtube I posted and look for the footage against Unseld. He ragdolls him several times. Shaq would have been destroyed.
They showed the dunks first. As I said they divided it into sections and you didn't get to the second section. Keep watching.
I think Bill's doing ok. Stack up your life and his sometime.
Yeah. And some 6-6 guard couldn't do anything in the two playoffs he didn't have a domjnant big.
Dude, I like your posts. They're well-written and crafted. But I had to laugh when you said that 2001 Shaq, 2005 Duncan, and 1995 Olajuwon would have been dominated by Wilt. Unseld was 6'7 on a good day. Russell, on the other hand, was 6'9, 230 lb. yet Wilt couldn't figure out a way to beat him. Shaq's size and athleticism for a 300-lb. man is unparalleled while Olajuwon and Duncan's quickness, intelligence, and skill level would've been too much for Wilt.
It's short sighted to think players from 40 years ago could compete in today's NBA. They don't have the benefit of skills coaches and they didn't have themselves to look back on and improve upon. Their compe ion was weak compared to today's game. Sure it was rougher, but the difference between Wilt and most of his opponents, and Shaq and most of his, was heavily in Wilt's favor. Shaq would have destroyed the NBA.
College teams today would beat most NBA teams of that era.
That you say that Shaq's athleticism at that size is unparralleled but that doesn't make it true.
Chamberlain was 1" taller and 3" longer than O'Neal. O'Neal outweighed him by 30 pounds but had a lot more body fat. Chamberlain could jump higher. O'Neal only jumped 36" when he was drafted. Chamberlain could jump at least a foot more than that.
O'Neal is not a good side to side athlete. It's why he was awful playing the pnr even in his prime.
Shaq had skills that no man of his size/weight had ever had. Wilt will most likely limit Shaq because he's a big man himself for stretches, but prime Shaq was too big, too strong, and too skilled for anyone to handle singlehandedly. You should know that because the prime Shaq repeatedly dominated the Duncan/DRob combo in the early 2000s.
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