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    That's not evolution.
    It is absolutely evolution...

    Im confused... what do you think evolution is? A monkey giving birth to a man? a fish giving birth to a lizard?

    What exactly do you think evolution is?

    I seriously doubt you comprehend what evolution entails after that last post.

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    How did the fish turn into a lizard? Why hasn't the wolf evolved into anything other than a variation of canines?

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    They came from wolves. You said you already knew that.
    is a Chihuahua the same species as a wolf? No. even you will agree with this.

    can a Chihuahua mate with a wolf? Of course not. even you will agree with this.

    we also know that all dogs came from wolves. a grey wolf is not the same species as a chihuahua, but its also fact that grey wolves were ancestors to all chihuahuas

    that is a perfect example of one species being an ancestor to a new species. the whole "evolution is impossible" thing is thwarted right there. one species over the course of many, many generations paved the way for a new species to emerge. this is over the course of about 100,000 years. imagine that how different dogs can be 100,000 years from now. and another 100,000 years. and keep going. evolution takes place over the course of millions, tens of millions and even billions of years. 1 billion years of evolution would be the equivalent of 10,000x the evolution period of grey wolf to chihuahua. a lot can happen over that period of time

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    is a Chihuahua the same species as a wolf? No. even you will agree with this.

    can a Chihuahua mate with a wolf? Of course not. even you will agree with this.

    we also know that all dogs came from wolves. a grey wolf is not the same species as a chihuahua, but its also fact that grey wolves were ancestors to all chihuahuas

    that is a perfect example of one species being an ancestor to a new species. the whole "evolution is impossible" thing is thwarted right there. one species over the course of many, many generations paved the way for a new species to emerge. this is over the course of about 100,000 years. imagine that how different dogs can be 100,000 years from now. and another 100,000 years. and keep going. evolution takes place over the course of millions, tens of millions and even billions of years. 1 billion years of evolution would be the equivalent of 10,000x the evolution period of grey wolf to chihuahua. a lot can happen over that period of time
    Yes, I is remember bible passage talk chihuahua and speak of what you is say !

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    But it's still a canine, not a bird or a monkey.

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    Speciation, not evolution.

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    But it's still a canine, not a bird or a monkey.
    no I think he is rights on this. Fish people theory is stupid but god is get angry and turn wolf into chihuaha because it no worship him

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    But it's still a canine, not a bird or a monkey.
    Speciation, not evolution.
    call it what you will. is this a species giving birth to another species over time? i literally just want a yes or no answer

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    -eagerly awaits a yes or no answer-

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    is a Chihuahua the same species as a wolf? No. even you will agree with this.

    can a Chihuahua mate with a wolf? Of course not. even you will agree with this.

    we also know that all dogs came from wolves. a grey wolf is not the same species as a chihuahua, but its also fact that grey wolves were ancestors to all chihuahuas

    that is a perfect example of one species being an ancestor to a new species. the whole "evolution is impossible" thing is thwarted right there. one species over the course of many, many generations paved the way for a new species to emerge. this is over the course of about 100,000 years. imagine that how different dogs can be 100,000 years from now. and another 100,000 years. and keep going. evolution takes place over the course of millions, tens of millions and even billions of years. 1 billion years of evolution would be the equivalent of 10,000x the evolution period of grey wolf to chihuahua. a lot can happen over that period of time
    ie, differential developmental mechanisms, etc

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    How did the fish turn into a lizard? Why hasn't the wolf evolved into anything other than a variation of canines?
    I know it is hard to understand, but think of it this way...

    Why would a wolf "evolve" into a different species if it didn't naturally help them survive.... Wolves are Wolves because they thrive in their environment. There is no need for change. Same for any "Monkey" species.... They are thriving the way they are so there is no need for them to suddenly "turn human" like planet of the apes. Evolution predicates what is best for survival of a species. Wolves became Dogs because some of them (wolves) learned that they could get food from humans more easily than hunting on their own.... In return, they provided protection for humans.... Hence "mans best friend".

    Fish didn't just decide "oh, I want to go on land, let me make legs for myself"...... It just became advantageous to escape predators. Once they where on land, it took them countless years to adapt to surface life. Does that mean a fish suddenly walked on land and gave birth to a human? no, that's ridiculous..... but taking into account 4.6 BILLION years, changes. My guess is, you are thinking on the scale of human history. If we put the earth's entire life and scale it down to 1 year, human history measures within the last few seconds of December 31st. We are not even a blip on the cosmic scale of the universe. You can think we are special all you want. I choose to forego the safety blanket and face reality.

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    call it what you will. is this a species giving birth to another species over time? i literally just want a yes or no answer
    Speciation not evolution. Evolution teaches that a dog can become a cat, which is impossible.

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    Speciation not evolution. Evolution teaches that a dog can become a cat, which is impossible.
    Evolution absolutely does not teach that.... you are reading some creationist bull website.

    In fact, Evolution doesn't "Teach or Preach" anything.... It presents facts based on peer reviewed studies and simply allows people to view it... Weather you accept the facts or deny them are up to the individual.

    Facts are still facts though.
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    Yes it does, it does on UC Berkeley. The first site that comes up when you Google evolution.

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    Evolution teaches that a dog can become a cat.
    lol.

    Link?

    Or is that your uneducated guess?

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    If all life came from the Ocean, what were the fish looking for?

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    lol.

    Link?

    Or is that your uneducated guess?
    LMFAO

    No ... Name me the peer reviewed scientist who claimed this and I will personally go on his porch AFTER I ring the doorbell and he answers the door.

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    If all life came from the Ocean, what were the fish looking for?
    How about you answer some questions for a change? or are you continually dodging into another corner to save yourself? You obviously view yourself as some "champion" of the holy bull text...... How about defending your belief for a change. We have all provided quite enough evidence to refute your claims but all you do is keep asking questions and dodging our questions. Lets see what you got....

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    Evolution teaches that all species came from the ocean, so once again how did a fish become a small rat?

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    Lemme guess, mllions of years. Yet it doesn't happen anymore. A cat is a cat, a dog is a dog, a fish is a fish.

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    If all life came from the Ocean, what were the fish looking for?
    What are you looking for?

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    And what were the fish looking for on land? If life began in the ocean then the land must of been full of nothing.

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    Answer the question.

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    Lemme guess, mllions of years. Yet it doesn't happen anymore. A cat is a cat, a dog is a dog, a fish is a fish.
    actually you are wrong....

    It is proven within the past 5000 years the human DNA has changed by roughly 7%.... THAT is a HUGE amount.

    Now consider 4.6 BILLION years.

    Now YOU ANSWER!

    YOU claimed that evolution is impossible.... AGAIN, I ask that you explain Dogs. Im not asking a lot here... you claim evolution is "IMPOSSIBLE" so all I ask is a reasonable explanation on how grey wolves became all of the different species of dogs we have today.... It shouldn't be that difficult if evolution is "fake".
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    Lemme guess, mllions of years. Yet it doesn't happen anymore. A cat is a cat, a dog is a dog, a fish is a fish.
    remember when you said you checked the first link when you googled "evolution"? The Evolution 101 bit on that UC Berkley site talks about stasis.

    Phyzik briefly touched on it.

    it shouldn't be difficult to understand that a species might not evolve if it doesn't need to. Yet it seems to be.

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