2 time league MVP.
3 time Finals MVP.
Was the league's best player by his 2nd season.
Took it to a Shaq-Kobe duo and beat em twice.
Was the alpha since he stepped foot on the court for the city of San Antonio.
The only post MJ era player who's accomplished more than Duncan is Lebron.
And above all, he's by far the best team player who hasn't once demanded a trade, criticized the front office/coaching staff or threatened to quit if the team's alpha is not shipped out.
SMH
League MVP is a media award. Who cares?
League's best player by 2nd season? Only on SpursTalk
What's his head to head playoff record vs. Kobe?
LeBron has more rangs than Duncan? That's what matters.
Duncan tried to flee for Orlando to play with Grant Hill and T-Mac. Daisy Robinson persuaded him to stay.
Threatened to out him as a fudge packer, maybe.
He wasn't?
Shaq wasn't better in '99.
He was so finesse that year especially against the Lakers and the Knicks. His ankle surgery the next year took away his athleticism tbh.He wasn't?
Shaq wasn't better in '99.
Who cares?
Duncan's matchup was Shaq (and later Gasol) and he typically outplayed Shaq.
Kobe holds a 18 - 16 head to head record to be exact.
'99*He wasn't?
Shaq wasn't better in '99.
Don't forget 5 > 4
I do. Kobe is also 1-0 vs. Duncan after Shaq.
Kobe's 05-06 and 06-07 where he didn't win MVP > than Duncan's MVP seasons
05-06:
35-5-5 on 45/35/85 (56TS)
8th highest ppg season ever, highest since 87-88
6 50-point games
27 40-point games
40 ppg month
06-07:
32-6-5 on 46/34/87 (58TS)
37 ppg post allstar break
10 50-point games (most in a single season since Wilt)
18 40-point games
40 ppg month
4 straight 50-point game streak
Don't care if he didn't win MVP, he had better seasons than Duncan's 01-02 and 02-03 seasons.
FMVPs?
Kobe's 01 postseason where he didn't win FMVP:
29-7-6 on 47/32/82 (56TS) (15-1 record, the best playoff record EVER)
Vs. Western Conference: 32-7-6 on 49FG/58TS (TEAM WENT 11-0)
Finals: 25-8-6
WCF: 33-7-7
WCSF: 35-9-4
1st Rd: 25-4-8
Also...5>4
Next
Asterisk smack.
How about '02 (a series the Lakers won. I also remember Shaq being butthurt about Duncan getting the MVP, so he was going to "prove" he was the true MVP. He didn't).
Inb4 Bbbbut ppg doesnt matter
No one cares about games that you won in a lost series
4-2
And Kobe killed SA in the 4th quarters. Don't believe me? See my 4th quarter stats thread. Don't act like Kobe doesn't have a clear edge.
Dropping a wet deuce on these farmers.
Quit using per game stats and giving more weight to PPG. They're beyond antiquated.
TMac tbh.
Quit using per game stats and giving more weight to PPG. They're beyond antiquated.
It really doesn't. Not as much as you think. You focus on it because that's all Kobe is really known for.
Ever see Shaq do this...
How about '02 (a series the Lakers won. I also remember Shaq being butthurt about Duncan getting the MVP, so he was going to "prove" he was the true MVP. He didn't).
...with a TOSB small forward guarding him? Pathetic son.
False - Kirby is also known for chucking, bricking, snitching, raping, quitting, coattail-riding, jerking off after she left, and filming Tapes
Kobe isn't even a particularly good defender. Phil Jackson said as much in his book (not that I really take anything he has to say seriously) and the stats don't back up his "doberman defender" reputation.
http://asubs uteforwar.wordpress.c...er-imaginable/
We also know he's beyond overrated as a clutch shot maker as the stats have shown.
They only thing Kobe is really known for is his scoring (on a a lot of shots). He's a rich man's T-mac who's always had the benefit of playing alongside a dominant big/frontline in his championship years.
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