Nuh uh. Kobe's a chucker. Chucker's don't pass.Duncan is a big, Kirby is a guard.... pretty pathetic for it to be that close
His career apg even factors in his rookie year when Del Harris wouldn't play him. Yet he still trumps Jim.
Like CN said, Duncan is a big and Kobe is a guard. Asking a big to average more assists than a guard is like asking a guard to average more boards than a big.
Besides, apg doesn't equal passing ability. Bird was a much better passer than John Stockton, even thought Stockton racked up the assists.
Nuh uh. Kobe's a chucker. Chucker's don't pass.
His career apg even factors in his rookie year when Del Harris wouldn't play him. Yet he still trumps Jim.
Did I not back up my claims with stats on the 05-06/06-07 seasons and 01 playoffs?
Go back and tell me.
He doesn't pass. Allen Iverson was the most selfish player I've ever seen and still average about 6 dimes just because he was so ball dominant, like Kobe.Nuh uh. Kobe's a chucker. Chucker's don't pass.
His career apg even factors in his rookie year when Del Harris wouldn't play him. Yet he still trumps Jim.
Kobe isn't a bad passer when he wants to be, but he's nowhere near the top as far as passing wings go. Duncan is a top 5 passing big of all-time (Russell, Walton, KG, Webber, Duncan). Kobe wouldn't crack the top 10 of passing wings.
Kobe's team went to the Finals det year. CP0's was a first round casualty. Per his career ceiling, including last year's 56 win campaign. -5 points. Try again son.That was Chris Paul's tbh.
You're only capable of using per game stats (mostly PPG) and TS% (a highly flawed stat).
Even when he tries to pass, it's non-impactful, tbh.... his "Kobe Johnson" phase last year was just blatant statpadding to prove a point
And you never take into consideration defense.
Neither does Kobe though.
MVP is a regular-season award and CP3 had the better seasonPERIOD.... by your logic, MVPau deserved MVP that year for leading the Lakers to the le as the alpha
I'd take that than seeing Duncan get injured via Achilles or broken knee cap, tbh. Seriously though, Kobe's done. We can all just talk about how good he was because he ain't coming back.How does this factor into improving his legacy?
Bird was a good passer, but he wasn't better than Stockton. C'mon man.
How so?MVP is a regular-season award and CP3 had the better seasonPERIOD.... by your logic, MVPau deserved MVP that year for leading the Lakers to the le as the alpha
That's denial stage of 6 talk.
Yes he was. If Bird was somehow a PG, he'd average more assists than Stockton any day of the week, especially if he ran the PnR with Malone 60 times a game.
CP3's fellow starters were MoPete, Peja, West, and a raw Tyson Chandler, yet they won 56 games (despite Media predicting they'd miss the playoffs) and had a top 5 offense.... 57% TS, 21 PPG, and he averaged 11.6 assists to a ridiculous 2.5 turnovers - even averaging 4 rebounds per game as a point guard....
Kirby won because of his name, the name on the front of his jersey, and pity only.... KG was more deserving that year too
It sucks to be a Kobe fan these days. Deep down, you know Kobe's done. It would take a miracle for him to get back to 80% of what he was before injury. If Kobe got injured at 25, he could come back as good as he was, but dude is already pushing 36. Great career and player, but I see him retiring very soon.
CP3's fellow starters were MoPete, Peja, West, and a raw Tyson Chandler, yet they won 56 games (despite Media predicting they'd miss the playoffs) and had a top 5 offense.... 57% TS, 21 PPG, and he averaged 11.6 assists to a ridiculous 2.5 turnovers - even averaging 4 rebounds per game as a point guard....
Kirby won because of his name, the name on the front of his jersey, and pity only.... KG was more deserving that year too
“Somebody told me the other day Kobe’s never won MVP …. it made me wanna throw mine away! That’s how much respect I have for the guy!”
-Larry Bird
"This kid is going to fit the bill for us. We feel he can handle it. I think Kwame is going to be fine."
- Michael Jordan, 2001 Draft
Perhaps the biggest understatement in the history of Spurstalk.
“I think Kobe is the best player in our league and I think he’s been the best player for a long time, not to take anything away from anybody else. You know, somebody told me the other day that [Kobe] hasn’t won an MVP trophy, and it sort of made me feel like I want to go throw mine away, so that’s how much respect I have for the guy.”
Deuce, after getting eviscerated by Midnight in the stats department, turns to player quotes as examples of his basketball knowledge.
3× NBA champion (1981, 1984, 1986)
2× NBA Finals MVP (1984, 1986)
3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1984–1986)
12× NBA All-Star (1980–1988, 1990–1992)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1982)
9× All-NBA First Team (1980–1988)
All-NBA Second Team (1990)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1982–1984)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1980)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1980)
3× Three-point Shootout champion (1986–1988)
2× 50–40–90 club (1987-1988)
AP Athlete of the Year (1986)
No. 33 retired by Boston Celtics
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
College national player of the year (1979)
2× MVC Player of the Year (1978–1979)
2× Consensus first team All-American (1978–1979)
NBA All-Star Game head coach (1998)
NBA Coach of the Year (1998)
NBA Executive of the Year (2012)
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