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im really really lazy but i dont have a family. is that fine?
I think lazy is probably a poor choice of words, or at least how it is applied. It is too broad... too generalized. We can all be lazy when it comes to some activities, and very energetic when it comes to others.
im really really lazy but i dont have a family. is that fine?
So why did the author center on statistics on Hispanics and Blacks, and then tie this to culture?
Why even touch on ethnicity, as Will says, tiptoe into a touchy subject?
Just center on expectations etc... The implication is its cultural in certain ethnicities. Then one might say the problem is they are poor in the first place, this is the hopelessness of poverty. And a circular argument has been presented as well as a vicious cycle in certain ethnicities.
"So why did the author center on statistics on Hispanics and Blacks, and then tie this to culture?"
criminalizing the non-Euro-American poor, blaming them as the exclusive reason for their poverty, is a fundamental idea in racist conservatism. Why didn't he mention the Poor White Trash of the Repug base that is poor generation after generation and living off SNAP, school lunches, Medicaid? Because THEY are WHITTE.
"Why even touch on ethnicity, as Will says, tiptoe into a touchy subject?"
it's not touchy for conservatives, it's their fundamental racism. Their dog whistles and codings have been strong since St Ronnie's race-baiting of Welfare Queens in Cadillacs and Young Bucks not working.
"this is the hopelessness of poverty"
The failure of the War on Poverty is not a failure, it's a conservative/1%/VRWC/coporate LIE. Since they say the War on Poverty is a hopeless, there's no reason NOT to let these people rot in poverty, in disease, in crime, and early death.
There's no area where the racism of conservatism is more blatant than in their whining, ing about (the taxpayer cost of) poor blacks and browns, while excluding the equally poor, dependent White Trash in the Repug base.
Because it is the culture they have become, living in the impoverished areas they live in. As generalities go, it is true.
How do you avoid it? Statistically, such facts are true. There are more minorities of Latino and Black decent living in these cultures than white, Asian, etc.
It's actually not so broad as culture, as it is subculture. I have seen very few inner city subcultures that have any expectations of respectable values. It isn't limited to blacks and Hispanics, but they are the two largest groups.
That is half the equation when it comes to blacks. The other half is the handed down hatred of whites because of the sins of most white people's forefathers.
And I agree in most cases, it is true. It is real difficult to break out of that subculture when your parents say there is not future for you and when the peer pressure of such areas are different than suburban peer pressure. Look at how many blacks are brainwashed they don't get ahead because of whites. They have a self defeating at ude to start with.
It Starts Early: Black Preschoolers Suspended at Much Higher Rate Than Whites
Across ins utions, economic indicators and rates of crime, racial gaps abound. Now, new data from the US Department of Education reveals that unequal treatment can begin as early as preschool.
Of the 8,000 toddlers suspended from preschool in 2011--a surreal figure in and of itself--roughly 45 percent of them were black and 26 percent were white, even though rates of enrollment were nearly the reverse. Latino children were also suspended at a higher rate to whites relative to their enrollment.
This sort of pattern continues later on in school. Across all K-12 schools, black students represented 16 percent of the student population but 42 percent were suspended more than once during the 2011-2012 school year.
The Office for Civil Rights Data Collection report also reveals a number of long standing disparities within the education system, including unequal access to experienced educators and advanced courses in schools that serve students of color. It can be read in full here.
http://www.alternet.org/it-starts-ea...tter973213&t=6
zero tolerance policies in schools and the school-to-prison pipeline strategies are aimed directly at blacks and browns, although white pre-schoolers have gotten kicked out for making gun shape with a hand.
Their parents are to blame for the way they are raised in many cases.It Starts Early: Black Preschoolers Suspended at Much Higher Rate Than Whites
Across ins utions, economic indicators and rates of crime, racial gaps abound. Now, new data from the US Department of Education reveals that unequal treatment can begin as early as preschool.
Of the 8,000 toddlers suspended from preschool in 2011--a surreal figure in and of itself--roughly 45 percent of them were black and 26 percent were white, even though rates of enrollment were nearly the reverse. Latino children were also suspended at a higher rate to whites relative to their enrollment.
This sort of pattern continues later on in school. Across all K-12 schools, black students represented 16 percent of the student population but 42 percent were suspended more than once during the 2011-2012 school year.
The Office for Civil Rights Data Collection report also reveals a number of long standing disparities within the education system, including unequal access to experienced educators and advanced courses in schools that serve students of color. It can be read in full here.
http://www.alternet.org/it-starts-ea...tter973213&t=6
zero tolerance policies in schools and the school-to-prison pipeline strategies are aimed directly at blacks and browns, although white pre-schoolers have gotten kicked out for making gun shape with a hand.
and the parents of the parents of the parents, and the examples the kids see from all poor people and kids around them.
and whites NEVER behave badly:
Chris Hayes Spoofs ‘White Power Structure’: ‘Has No Clue’ How To Stop Culture Of ‘White On White Violence’
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hay...hite-violence/
when whites go nuts and destroy stuff on Spring Break, no problem
??so there is no disadvantage to being born black in the US, it's the defeatest at ude that keeps blacks in poverty?
This is starting to go circular...
Yes, it is circular. Unless a black individual born into a home/culture of poverty and low expectations can break away from that lifestyle, he/she is probably going to be back in that same circle.
Yes.
Being black is not the problem. It is the general black culture that is the problem.
And this is what George Will wanted to say.
Being born black and female in this country gives you the largest disadvantages.
And it's definitely NOT all cultural imo.
I was saying the argument is circular, I was not referring to the poverty feedback loop.
"And it's definitely NOT all cultural imo."
so what else is "it"? genetics?
yeah, genetics.
Genetics in white people that makes them wary of people with darker skin.
Jesus... Genetics... Good God...
Bull .
Statistics of crime and how black people are portrayed in the media is what makes white people afraid of blacks. Then there are the first hand account I, and many other whites, can attest to as to how black people treat whites.
Its sarcasm dammit. Why can't you pick up on this? I was trying to be a bizarre as possible with that response.
Boots thinks, I think blacks etc... have a laziness gene or something, that's what Boots was getting at. Which in my opinion is a thought held in the back of the head of many conservatives.
The real question is do you think blacks, Hispanics have a genetic predisposition to not caring, stupidity, etc.?
We do know Hispanics have a genetic predisposition towards diabetes...so...?
Last edited by pgardn; 03-23-2014 at 05:27 PM.
Two-fifths of the nation’s public school districts offer no preschool programs, and most of those that do offer only part-day programs. Black students account for less than a fifth of those in preschool across the nation but make up almost half of the students who are suspended from preschool multiple times.
Those results from the first comprehensive survey in nearly 15 years of civil rights data from the 97,000 U.S. public schools show they remain marked by inequities. The report released Friday by the Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights, which includes data from the 2011-12 school year, offers no explanation for the stark differences.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/u-s-scho...s-study-finds/
I think its acquired traits. Not inherited.
Preschool didn't used to exist. What does it say about parenting when preschool is considered to be needed?
That there are more working mothers?
... who since entering the workforce in the 1980s, by force or choice, have not been able to stop the VRWC stagnation of household income.
The benefits of pre-school are very well known, esp for poor kids WC and other Repugs like to on.
These kids lacking a good start will become their/ our problem. Why does this not sink in?
Look what happens with all the latch key kids... Most turn out to be losers. Besides, most preschools are only half a regular school day. Why do parents abuse their children by leaving them alone with strangers for most the day?
Maybe i should ask why. I know why. Irresponsibility in most cases.
Look what happens with all the latch key kids... Most turn out to be losers. Besides, most preschools are only half a regular school day. Why do parents abuse their children by leaving them alone with strangers for most the day?
Maybe i should ask why. I know why. Irresponsibility in most cases.
If parents took an active interest in their children, preschool wouldn't be necessary.
Don't blame the repugs for irresponsible parents.
Active interest if they can't read? Like the Asian immigrants that never spoke or read English? But were intellects where they came from... And valued education more than anything else?
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