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    Der Führer!
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    A solid "DNP" in a 127-96 rout of a team fighting for their playoff lives.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    All of a sudden team performance without an allstar is important.

    Well, guess what, even in his old and frail state ...

    Lakers with Gasol:
    21-38 (36% winning %)

    Lakers without Gasol:
    3-8 (27%)

    Lakers with Kobe:
    2-4 (33%)

    Lakers without Kobe:
    22-42 (34%)

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    Kirby: a solid "DNP" all season.

    The Quit

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    All of a sudden team performance without an allstar is important.

    Well, guess what, even in his old and frail state ...

    Lakers with Gasol:
    21-38 (36% winning %)

    Lakers without Gasol:
    3-8 (27%)

    Lakers with Kobe:
    2-4 (33%)

    Lakers without Kobe:
    22-42 (34%)
    Sample size importance to stats both op and your reply is silly

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    Anal with more takes and threads per par

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    LOL they were playing the ing Knicks

    GTFO got

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Sample size importance to stats both op and your reply is silly
    Do you want I go over all the seasons where Kobe missed games?

    And MVPau played and missed a decent amount of games this year. Seems like A fair sample.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    The kicker:::SF's people wouldn't step off his throat long enough to spare him a V last Spring thus safely securing Pau's perfect playoff record sans Kobe.

    tee, hee.

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    The kicker:::SF's people wouldn't step off his throat long enough to spare him a V last Spring thus safely securing Pau's perfect playoff record sans Kobe.

    tee, hee.
    You've nary room, the Spurs swept your Kirby out of the Great Western Forum. Christ!

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    You've nary room, the Spurs swept your Kirby out of the Great Western Forum. Christ!
    Oh, that's right you guys have that thing.

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    Der Führer!
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    LOL they were playing the ing Knicks

    GTFO got
    8-2 in their last 10. Sit your ing ass down.

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    Oh, that's right you guys have that thing.
    The house that Wilt, Kareem & Magic built, & your Kirby allowed Duncan to take a wrecking ball to it. Christ!

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    ... scanry's Avatar
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    8-2 in their last 10. Sit your ing ass down.
    Their last 10 games didn't feature one playoff team tbh.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    So KK81 wants a larger sample size, here it is. Year by year breakdown:

    Young Buck Years:
    96-97 - 48-23 w Kobe, 8-3 w/o (68% winning % vs. 73%)
    97-98 - 58-21 (74%) vs. 3-0 (100%)
    98-99 - Didn't miss any games
    Overall - 137-63 (69%) vs. 11-3 (79%)

    2nd banana to Shaq years:
    99-00 - 55-11 (83%) vs. 12-4 (75%)
    00-01 - 45-23 (66%) vs. 11-3 (79%)
    01-02 - 56-24 (70%) vs. 2-0 (100%)
    02-03 - Didn't miss any games
    03-04 - 48-17 (74%) vs. 8-9 (47%) (Only season Kobe had a significant +ve impact, but Shaq missed a lot of those Kobe missed games as well)
    Overall: 254-107 (70%) vs. 33-16 (67%)

    Kobe as the lead years:
    04-05 - 28-38 (42%) vs. 6-10 (38%)
    05-06 - 45-35 (56%) vs. 0-2 (0%)
    06-07 - 39-38 (51%) vs. 3-2 (60%)
    Overall: 112-111 (50%) vs. 9-14 (39%)

    MVPau years:
    07-08 - Didn't miss any games
    08-09 - Didn't miss any games
    09-10 - 51-22 (70%) vs. 6-3 (67%)
    10-11 - Didn't miss any games
    11-12 - 36-22 (62%) vs. 5-3 (63%)
    12-13 - 42-36 (54%) vs. 3-1 (75%)
    Overall: 308-147 (68%) vs. 14-7 (67%)

    Grand overall: 811-428 (65%) vs. 67-40 (63%)

    Overall, Kobe had no effect in any stage of his career, except him being top dog and leading the Lakers to a missed playoffs and two first round exits, but even then, the Lakers were actually 6-8 in 04-05 without Kobe but with Odom, which is the same winning % as the Lakers with Kobe.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    The house that Wilt, Kareem & Magic built, & your Kirby allowed Duncan to take a wrecking ball to it. Christ!
    Fine. You take that one. Me? I'm stickin' with 6.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Their last 10 games didn't feature one playoff team tbh.
    Didn't stop Media from climbing on that wagon once Phil was the teamster.

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    Fine. You take that one. Me? I'm stickin' with 6.
    2004 trumps it.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    You're full of .

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    You're full of .
    Dale, wavin' the white flag.

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    ... scanry's Avatar
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    The house that Wilt, Kareem & Magic built, & your Kirby allowed Duncan to take a wrecking ball to it. Christ!
    That fell on Shaq tbh. I remember the Spurs would triple and quadruple team the fat bas and their shooters (especially Glen Rice & Kobe) that year were building some great houses in South LA.

    Tim had a monster series against the Lakers that year. There was a time when fans would travel all the way from St Croix to see Tim play. Did they run of money cause i haven't seen them since.

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    ... scanry's Avatar
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    Didn't stop Media from climbing on that wagon once Phil was the teamster.
    Can't blame them cause desperation & Brooklyn has caused Dolan to throw some serious money at Phil.

    A 68 year old earning $12 mil/yr for the next 5 is

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    That fell on Shaq tbh. I remember the Spurs would triple and quadruple team the fat bas and their shooters (especially Glen Rice & Kobe) that year were building some great houses in South LA.

    Tim had a monster series against the Lakers that year. There was a time when fans would travel all the way from St Croix to see Tim play. Did they run of money cause i haven't seen them since.
    ...6 put a damper on things.

    tee, hee.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    8-2 in their last 10. Sit your ing ass down.
    And 24-46 overall. Now shut the up

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    Its no coincidence the Lakers declined in 2011 because Pau Gasol's play declined. Hes the real reason they won 2 championships.

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    ... scanry's Avatar
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    ...6 put a damper on things.

    tee, hee.
    6 also set the tone for Tim's continued drive this year. He'll surpass 2 pretty soon in the all time rankings now that Piano's been busy with his curricular activities while collecting his 30.5.

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