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I don't think anyone is arguing for him to be apart of the next "big 3" either?
and for the 12th or 13th player on the team...that would be great.
I don't think anyone is arguing for him to be apart of the next "big 3" either?
No. Most of us are discussing Daye's strengths and weaknesses. The shills are acting like it's a damned accident that he hasn't been able to stick with a team.
Some think he's a potential Durant stopper, or even another KD himself. They fail to understand that Daye doesn't flash star potential at all. And as a result of that, they won't be able o appreciate him as a role-player.
Already addressed. Try to keep up.
My points stand.
Not completely ignore, but certainly take with a very large grain of salt. The Sixers are an historically bad team.
I am pretty sure you were the one with the very bad take about Danny Green having always been a good player. That was pretty insufferable, too. But, did I go and rub your nose in that take over and over again or did I wipe it off of my shoe, rebutt and move on?
I didn't whine about the severity of the stench of that take. Poor suffering me having to listen to that.
You had some good points, I acknowledged, and ignored the idiot part of the take. I thought I was doing good.
Danny was never good in Clevland and we cut him twice, and he is still problematic when he puts the ball on the floor or passes out of pressure or on the move. He is a great role player but some might argue he's not even good now (I would not be one of them) much less has always been a good player. He's better and good for US. NOW. Always? Or, on another team? Lulz.
There is an ignore button if it's that insufferable. Don't be a damn martyr.
And btw, there were a whole bunch of Mills bashers that ended up being wrong about him, too. I was not in his group of supporters (I was just busy, but I did and do appreciate him.) but he has exceeded the limits of expectations put on him by his detractors. Are you just mad when others are right? Like the previous Mills supporters? Just hatin'? Were you on the wrong side of an argument I missed out on?
Also, Daye has had plenty of people stating he would be a scrub and get cut and had NO CHANCE and we didn't even want him we were just doing Nando a solid, etc. So, a "chance" is even more than some gave him. He already has a chance, now, I think. I am not arguing for that. Instead, against sweeping generalized claims against him that are either wrong or yet not proved.
I wasn't making it personal. Trying to be polite. We all have our tolerances, I guess. I was turning the other cheek when I said, tongue in cheek, "nice rebuttal...I will withdraw". But, I'm not seeking your approval. I'll post when convenient and fun. And when it's not fun, I'll stop. Promise. I hope it doesn't pain you too much. Good luck, and take care.
"Some think he's a potential Durant stopper, or even another KD himself. They fail to understand that Daye doesn't flash star potential at all. And as a result of that, they won't be able o appreciate him as a role-player..."
Where, oh where are you reading this stuff. NO ONE is saying these things. The only thing close is that someone said he might be able to ay some D on KD. Might. Everything else about him being another KD?! Sarcastically, yes. Who has seriously suggested that?! Names. Dates. Times.
I did see Austin Daye get outmuscled on the low post, but my Spurs will find a role that maximizes his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.
I'm pulling for the kid tbh. He's extremely fortunate to be with the one team that can turn him into Matt Bonner 2.0. The makeup of the roster and contracts situation give him an ideal opportunity to be able to translate his 1 NBA level skill into a lucrative 10 year career just like Matty did.
Another insufferably long post that says nothing. It's your MO, littlecoyotecoin.
I said Green has always been the player he is today. That's true, and if you watched him in college, you'd know that. He's a defender/glue guy/stat-stuffer. That's what he did at UNC; that's what he did in Cleveland. The ONLY evidence you brought up against that was Green's shooting percentage, and you negated that point by saying that Green's efficiency rose in a better system. That means Green didn't become a better shooter; he just gets better looks.
And don't be a fool. I was one of the only people who wanted Mills in the rotation during the off-season (hence my disapproval of the Beli signing) and I was one of the biggest Daye supporters in this very thread. The problem is not with my opinion of those players. It's with fans like you who feel the need to inundate the forum with inane shill posts and attack any critiques the players get. It's annoying, it's intellectually dishonest and it adds nothing to the forum.
Potential = "might"
Spurs fans are ing delusional, dude had 1 good game and know he's the 2nd coming of Dirk? gtfo, dude was traded for de colo for a reason. He will be a decent bench player at best.
Huh? I think you are just coming to argue. Do you feel a need to be right on the internet?
So not only is it improtant for you to be right...you also feel the need to be an ass?
Your life is being Mr. right on this message board isn't it?
Is this a truff bomb?
The are you getting that from? Either you are saying I insitgated this, in which case you need to read the thread, or you're saying that I am just looking to disagree with people. If that's the case, you REALLY need to read the thread.
You're the one trying to interpret a whole discussion from the last exchange.
pretty sure I am just interpreting the last exchange. You are the one calling names and going after one poster. he isn't even calling you out by name. so you can act all innocent, but your message board life is a little in flux right now.
I think maybe you should go read this thread again and what you post?
No. I originally posted that I had hope for Daye. That he had potential but made mistakes. Then I took exception to Daye's (the father) claim that Daye's situation is similar to Green's. I claimed that Green's talents fit the system; the system didn't make Green good. If Daye was to succeed, he'd need to improve to fit the system. The system won't fix him. I also thought Daye screaming into a pillow was hilarious. Daye shills felt the need to jump in and condescend all the negative parts while ignoring the good parts.
Pretty much everything I said, littlecoyotecoin replied to unprovoked with a long post that didn't say anything productive. He thinks I'm a Daye-hater, when I even suggested the Spurs trade for him this season. It's annoying that I can't even mention Daye's flaws or his realistic prospects without being called a hater or having to wade through a wall of text that compares Austin to PFs.
Might be able to play some minutes on KD is not the same as a Potential Durant STOPPER.
Being able to spell Kawhi for a few minutes on D is not arguing he is going to be a Durant stopper! Sheesh! The problem with your hyperbole is not "potential".
And, I see you totally ignored the part where all of these people are claiming he is the next Durant.
No name, date, or time...much less various posters claiming this. Talk about an empty and intellectually dishonest statement.
We will have to also just agree to disagree on your Green take. You said he was always GOOD. He was not. He got better in a good system which was the whole point. Daye was a better shooter in Detroit than Green was in Cleveland and may improve in all aspects when he gets the same good years of coaching in a good system that Green did. Daye may not even have to get cut twice to get to the same promised land. All that watching of him in college must have ruined you unbiased eye. That must have been it.
And, regarding your tastes for my posts, I don't know what to do for you. Regarding length? Damn whiney of you. Don't read 'em martyr man. I find them intellectually honest.
I hope you can get over it. I know some super nice people and I have met people that don't like them, either! Go figger. I am no angel, but there is no accounting for taste. That's for sure. I've got my supporters...
My free tickets just came in, so enjoy the game all, even you Chinook.
Then there you go.
I honestly don't mean to be rude. But I'm not going to apologize for being annoyed at getting long responses when I wasn't talking to you. We can agree to diagree on Green and Daye, but that means that you don't constantly quote me whenever I talk about Daye's flaws. We disagree. Fine. Leave it at that.
I don't know what there is to debate about him: He's a slightly taller, worse shooting, freakishly long, better ball skills version of Novak, which is to say, a tall shooter without a defined defensive position. This renders him only playable in select match-ups, such as against players who are either incapable of creating off the dribble and/or overpowering him and doing damage in the low post.
Next season, he'll make a fine Bonner replacement, doubling as the secondary stretch four, as well as adding some much needed depth at SF. For depth purposes, they'll still need another SF capable of playing passable defense though.
don't talk to me if I am not talking to you!! what a baby!!
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