I said this to someone tonight who tried to tell me they were not a threat this year and just had to shut him up. They are still contenders and deadly as ever when it comes down to it.
Its is funny that you are a Great Satan worshiper. Your reasoning is stupid on why the Heat will win this year. You honestly believe they are going to win when they needed a bs game winner to beat them last year due to Vogel going crazy and taking Hibbert out in the final seconds.
tru that ..you can take the big three heats & put them in the western conference in the early 2000s & they would be battling for dominance along with the spurs,mavs,kings,lakers & phx. cant really say the same for any other team in the league this day & age.
You're right, it took a Bosh offensive rebound and Allen clutch 3 to save him last year...otherwise, we would all be talking about how he bricked two shots at the end of game 6. He was very fortunate. But still, he is a 4-time MVP and best player in the league currently, so he does deserve some respect...
Watching the fourth quarter of this game and holy was Miami shafted on some calls. Earlier I said Lebron's elbow to Hibbert was a flagrant but that. If Hibbert is allowed to do his verticality bull (which he gets away with 95% of the time), Lebron or any offensive player attacking the rim for that matter, should be allowed to go to the basket however they want. The elbow wasn't on purpose tbh.
tbh I don't see Indiana beating Miami in the playoffs even with HC. Indiana is too emotionally immature and relies on an over abundance of physicality. Miami will bring it when it really counts imo. A scary thought.......
Your right the Great Satan is a 4 time MVP but I put him up there with Peyton Manning when it comes to showing up in pressure situations. Just like Peyton he chokes the majority of times. He will probably have the same legacy as Manning which is a multiple MVP winner but doesn't have many rings.
Coming from a rockets fan I wouldnt expect you to have the slightest clue about defense, not when harden just stands around. Theres There's alot more to the game of basketball than scoring, ask harden, he would know first hand the amount of times pg has butt ed himPG is a good player...I was one of the few that had him as underrated last year but its turned into a ing joke now. Watching the ESPN pregame show the way they were ing over him was nauseating. You're talking about a guy that played a month or two of good basketball and hasn't had a month where he shot over 41% since...
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Its the same reason why I hate the term "Linsanity"...a guy had a good 2 weeks and they are ready to crown him like ing Jordan. Guys like Lebron, Kobe, Wade, etc have sustained their play for 10342348x longer than PG yet this dude is immune from criticism and "Just had a bad game" when he played good for 20% of the season and has played like crap for 80% of it. I get that this is a star driven league and thats what sells, but let the damn players push the message through their play. I have nothing against PG in particular, he seems like a really humble guy tbh..
In those four previous matchups, Harden averaged just over 15 points per game while shooting a combined 15-62 (24%) from the field. And that wasn't just one bad shooting night. the four games break out like this, 3-14 (12pts), 6-24 (22pts), 5-19 (17pts) and 1-5 (10 pts). Harden also has 18 turnovers in the four games (5,3,5,5).
No big time scorer in the league has been ravaged by "PG Disease" more than Harden. The Rockets lethal weapon on the wing remains due to have his way with PG and he certainly has better options around him now as they prepare to face the Pacers tonight.
Harden is a bad defender, he was atrocious the first couple of months and I don't know what you are talking about...I was criticizing the out of him. During that period I learned a couple of things myself. Team defense stands out, and the Pacers excel greatly at that. Yes PG excels in that area, but with or without him the pacers would be a great defensive team, which is an important criteria for being championship material. (The defensive rating of every Pacer player is really damn high, look at Scola...who I had the luxury of watching for a good 4-5 yrs...his defensive rating sky rocketed after going to the pacers)
I will also give you this, George plays Harden really well (outside of last game). So if that is what he wants to put on his resume after playing like against 90% of the league while Harden plays well against 90% of the league, then more power to him and you.
That being said, this debate really isn't a debate and I won't prolong it. I don't understand why you would pick a Tony Allen over a Stephen Curry. Especially with a defensive powerhouse, offensively re ed team like the Pacers.
Hope you guys find some offense because I don't see you guys overtaking the Heatles otherwise. Best of luck.
You're being redundant. Also, those numbers are stretched. Harden was dealing with an injury the first time they played the Pacers and his numbers were down across the board during those first two months. So... even if I give you that, Harden's misfortune against one team...how does it explain George's inability to score even in the double digits vs the majority of the league. If that is your argument in a can, you do realize that you are propping George up vs a 1 v 1 matchup because he is remedial on offense.In those four previous matchups, Harden averaged just over 15 points per game while shooting a combined 15-62 (24%) from the field. And that wasn't just one bad shooting night. the four games break out like this, 3-14 (12pts), 6-24 (22pts), 5-19 (17pts) and 1-5 (10 pts). Harden also has 18 turnovers in the four games (5,3,5,5).
No big time scorer in the league has been ravaged by "PG Disease" more than Harden. The Rockets lethal weapon on the wing remains due to have his way with PG and he certainly has better options around him now as they prepare to face the Pacers tonight.
Tony Allen type of player tbh.
0 FGs vs the Bobcats
Lebeta with 10 FTs @ Indiana in the 1st half. Pacers with 7
Even if that is the case, it doesn't dispel any of the criticism towards George or how Harden is a much better player than he is.In those four previous matchups, Harden averaged just over 15 points per game while shooting a combined 15-62 (24%) from the field. And that wasn't just one bad shooting night. the four games break out like this, 3-14 (12pts), 6-24 (22pts), 5-19 (17pts) and 1-5 (10 pts). Harden also has 18 turnovers in the four games (5,3,5,5).
No big time scorer in the league has been ravaged by "PG Disease" more than Harden. The Rockets lethal weapon on the wing remains due to have his way with PG and he certainly has better options around him now as they prepare to face the Pacers tonight.
Sook, I think the Tony Allen analogy is spot on. You have many players that will play great defense (which is great), but is 1/10 for the value an offensive player brings. Nobody in their right minds would pick a Tony Allen over a Stephen Curry, and to top that, George has been a chucker.
His FG% and numbers are not worthy of All Star mention at this point. He is turning into a joke.
Might be time to start worrying, Heat fans. Coming from the Leastern conference, you have no ing excuse for this. To put it in perspective, the 9th place team in the west would be 3rd in the east.
Thanks, someone I knew actually made that argument. Ironically, it was I who was on Romsey's side of the discussion
Last 5 games for PG:
8-22
2-10
3-13
4-17
4-14
8-19
Almost all of them coming against terrible teams too I may add.
Shooting below 38% in March, and below 30% from distance.
October: 49%
September: 47%
December: 47%
January: 41%
February: 40%
March: 36%
If Paul George was a team...he would be the Portland Trailblazers
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Take away the Harden's steady diet of food stamps, a la Stern, and all you have his 15 ppg per game, on 35% shooting, fake tough guy, Mr.T Look-a-Like.
Actually, I think he has one of the highest true TS% in the league tbh:
Take away the Harden's steady diet of food stamps, a la Stern, and all you have his 15 ppg per game, on 35% shooting, fake tough guy, Mr.T Look-a-Like.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics
here it is, I knew I saw it somewhere
http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/play.../ts-percentage
Paul George is 47th
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Let this be a lesson to any Great Satan worshiper that when you worship the Great Satan you will get your ass kicked.
I was not aware of that, wow.
Also, Harden with a triple double in less than 3 quarters today. I'm positive he'll be the WC player of the month with his play in March tbh.
Where the is Romsey now
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