Unlimited amount. Top 5 perimeter defender in history.
1 trick pony dont even smell top 100
Yeah, it was such epic defense letting players score their averages on him in big games.
But let me guess: That didn't matter because he kicked people in the face and stuck his feet under them.
He had even fewer tricks than Green, and a whole bag fewer than Kawhi.
Green is merely a decent nba caliber defender how in the world you can compare that to Bowen goes beyond the realm of stupidiy.
you supplant Bown with Green and spurs dont smell champiinship. Most likely get swept by suns and mavericks
Yeah, that's an absurdly baseless take that underscores how overrated Bowen is. If Green is merely average as a defender, then Bowen was much closer to mediocre than you want to admit.
Bruce Bowen had a range of Defensive RAPM from 1.5 (min) to 3.1 (max) between 2000 and 2008. That was among the top defensive ratings for wing defenders across the league. That compared well with someone like Andre Iguodala (around 1.3 - 6.3 in 2014 between 2004 and 2014).
Green has had his best year this season with a defensive rating of 2.2 in 2014. Otherwise, the best he has had is 1.3 in 2012 in limited minutes.
Leonard on the other hand is also still finding his feet as a premier defender. Last year, his rating was 1.4 and this year it has nudged closer to 1.0 and trending upwards.
Defensively, Green & Leonard still have ways to go before they become as good as Bowen was.
Offensively, though, both Green & Leonard are far better than Bowen ever was. Already.
Praising a piece of of a dirty player...
i was never a big fan of bowen. he was a really good player for us, but i never liked the dirty antics
Ability aside, that Wally Szczerb kick to the face is classic
He's now a talking head analyst for ESPN. So...yes.
it's Manu's fault...
You are talking about HOF caliber players. There was an analysis on ESPN before he retired of the Superstars he defended and their average stats and their stats against him over his career. Everyone of them shot a worse FG%, shot more FGs per game than their average, shot less Free Throws a game, and scored less PPG.
Bowens defense was hardly overrated. Its just HOF caliber players are HOF caliber players for a reason where they can take the best Defenders and make them look silly sometimes. Need I say Hakeem and Drob.
Pretty sure anyone could shut down Bonner just by appearing on the court within 30' of Bonner. He would pass the ball. Shutdown complete.
Yes that's actually one thing that makes me respect Kobe just a little bit. Ray Allen on the other hand...sucks that he hit that shot. I loved Bowen and I think this team would benefit from a bit of nasty even if we have a couple of really good defenders.
This thread is evidence enough how much this forum is now overrun with people that know jack about basketball.
Bruce was the real patron del mal, I miss him too.
http://www.48minutesof .com/bruce...-the-box-score
Must not be a big contingent of SPURS faithful left on here.Whatever the case, when Bowen finally hangs it up, the Spurs faithful will remember him as a game-changing cog in the championship machine. Bowen’s defense was dominant and indispensable, even if there are not measurements available to substantiate the claim. Last season this coffin was nailed shut for me during the Conference Semifinals against New Orleans. The Hornets had spanked the Spurs in 800 kinds of ways, winning by 18 and 19 to take a 2-0 series lead in the opening games. In those games, Peja Stojakavic torched the Spurs for 47 points (60 FG%, 63 3pt%). Bowen was guarding Chris Paul during each of those contests. For the remaining 5 games of the series, Popovich placed Bowen on Peja and the tide of the entire series turned. Over the balance of the series, Stojakavic scored only 43 points (45 FG%, 33 3pt%)—a drop off of nearly 15 points per game and a staggering shooting percentage shift of minus 15 and 30%, respectively. In the first two contests Stojakavic averaged 12 shot attempts per game as compared to only 7 in the back five. Not only did Bowen dramatically reduce his man’s shooting percentage, he played him so tight that it was difficult for Peja to simply find space from which to shoot.
Bruce was a superior perimeter defender to anyone on the current roster. More clutch in his corner 3 and he was a great leader for the team. Asinine to claim his value to past teams was overstated, imho.
Kobe didn't get injured 3x by the same dirty move lol.
I think comparing Green and Leonard to Bowen is worlds better than comparing Ayres to Rose.
What Bowen had was a superior mental game than anyone (but maybe Horry and SJax)... He wanted it more badly than anyone including Ginob and was ready to do about anything... The current Bowen is someone like Battier, who is always there when it gets dirty on the court but then again he's there as well to defend a Tim Duncan layup successfully in crunch time...
Green and Leonard may have other qualities but they don't have that.
Richard Sherman is the football version of Bowen, not the most talented but a borderline psychopath with a huge chip on his shoulder watching hours of film...
Watching that live was sheer greatness. Bowen went HAMnever gonna see another one like him imo. If Bowen had been on the floor in game 6 of the Finals, he'd have kicked Ray Allen in the face before the shot was taken
Instead of being pompous like you always are, why not contribute some discussion? Or are you "too good" for this forum now because of your "OG" status even if a lot of your posts are as awful as a gnsf.
I see you're conveniently excluding how Bowen held LeBron to 35% shooting pretty much by himself when Bron shot under 35% in only TWO GAMES leading up to the Finals that playoffs. Not to mention 6 TO per game, something he did in only one playoff game prior to the Finals that year.
21.5 PPG isn't when you're shooting 35%. In fact its a negative
Same for Bron's 6.75 APG being garbage because he was turning it over 6x per game, Jeremy Lin style.
It's a joke if you think that isn't a horrible series for a guy who was beasting all postseason up til then. Bowen put him on lockdown. And it wasn't a three man effort like it was last year when we kept cycling Green, Leonard, and Diaw on him.
You're vastly undercutting what Bowen did
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
