BP Spill: Has the damage been exaggerated?

[DarrinS]

Fuzzy with the ad hominem per usual

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy with the ad hominem per usual

What more really needs to be demonstrated? You posted the damning evidence and that is why I ask if you are trolling. It's so ing stupid I have difficulty believing that you really think this compelling stuff. Like Kool and Jesus.

Bringing up a graph of the entire ocean really doesn't speak much when we are talking about the gulf coast ecosystem. That there are ecosystems out on the west coast that dump even more daily is besides the point. You don't just sprinkle oil eating bacteria and the slick goes away.

[DarrinS]

What more really needs to be demonstrated? You posted the damning evidence and that is why I ask if you are trolling. It's so ing stupid I have difficulty believing that you really think this compelling stuff. Like Kool and Jesus.

Bringing up a graph of the entire ocean really doesn't speak much when we are talking about the gulf coast ecosystem. That there are ecosystems out on the west coast that dump even more daily is besides the point. You don't just sprinkle oil eating bacteria and the slick goes away.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So where did you get the graph?

[DarrinS]

So where did you get the graph?

It's a mystery

[pgardn]

IER

The Ins ute's CEO, Robert L. Bradley, Jr., was formerly a director of policy analysis at Enron, where he wrote speeches for Kenneth Lay. He has written seven books, including Capitalism at Work and Edison to Enron,[5] and he maintains the website Political Capitalism.[6] He is also an adjunct scholar at the Cato Ins ute.[7]

Nonprofit first funded by big oil, Exxon included. Now in the hands of people who have an economic interest in petroleum and the wonders of a totally unfettered free market.

Nice...

Oh , I got the part with the brackets from Wikipedia, sorry Winehole.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

IER

The Ins ute's CEO, Robert L. Bradley, Jr., was formerly a director of policy analysis at Enron, where he wrote speeches for Kenneth Lay. He has written seven books, including Capitalism at Work and Edison to Enron,[5] and he maintains the website Political Capitalism.[6] He is also an adjunct scholar at the Cato Ins ute.[7]

Nonprofit first funded by big oil, Exxon included. Now in the hands of people who have an economic interest in petroleum and the wonders of a totally unfettered free market.

Nice...

Oh , I got the part with the brackets from Wikipedia, sorry Winehole.

lol Enron. Nice.

This shouldn't have been necessarily. Prima facia it's a petro think tank.

[boutons_deux]

the point being the Exxon Valdez and Deepwater Horizon are to be trivialized, ignored as being so much less polluting than "natural" oil pollution?

as pg found, IER is a "free market" (ie, Corporate-Americans Human-Americans and everything) stink tank.

[DarrinS]

http://www.eurocbc.org/1Oil_in_the_Sea.pdf

[RandomGuy]

From the Nat Geo link I posted above:

"In fact, of the tens of millions of gallons of oil that enter North American oceans each year due to human activities, only 8 percent comes from tanker or oil pipeline spills, according to the 2003 book Oil in the Sea III by the U.S. National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences, which is still considered the authority on oil-spill data."

So I assume the 2003 book Oil in the Sea III, doesn't have the data incorporated from the Deepwater Horizon spill.

What would the pie chart look like if it did?

Does constant oil seepage coat the entire ocean floor, and shoreline marine habitats? How does that pie chart reflect localized damage?

http://homertribune.com/2014/03/mend...dez-oil-spill/

The 1989 spill, while a fairly small amount compared to yearly emissions off the coast of Alaska I would be sure, destroyed the fishing community and all the jobs that went along with it, in a rather sudden localized ecosystem collapse that has yet to recover.

Does the Ins ute for Energy Research provide information on the ulative localized effects of spills? Why or why not?

[DarrinS]

still hung up on the source?

[Winehole23]

lol ducking RG's direct question

[DarrinS]

lol ducking RG's direct question

I'm sure Oil in the Sea III has the information RG asked about. Don't know why he's hung up on IER.

[DarrinS]

And a book published in 2003 is obviously not going to have data on an event that happened in 2010.

[Winehole23]

I'm sure Oil in the Sea III has the information RG asked about

but you don't. have you read it?

[Winehole23]

is it your habit to post sources you're totally unfamiliar with, except insofar as they appear to support what you say?

[DarrinS]

but you don't. have you read it?

no, have you?

[DarrinS]

is it your habit to post sources you're totally unfamiliar with, except insofar as they appear to support what you say?

What's that saying about people who live in glass houses?

[Winehole23]

fire away. so far you got zip.

[Winehole23]

no, have you?

not my hobby horse.

[Winehole23]

I made no claims one way or the other, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of you.

[DarrinS]

I made no claims one way or the other, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of you.

I'm just sure that when you are carpet bombing the forum, boutons-style, that you are have fully read all references cited by your source articles.

Carry on.

[Winehole23]

I read what I post. Occasionally I do check sources. So yes, I do some due diligence.

Difference is, you're in the habit of doing none. To the point where pwning you is often as easy as referring to sources you posted, but didn't read

[DarrinS]

I read what I post. Occasionally I do check sources. So yes, I do some due diligence.

Difference is, you're in the habit of doing none. To the point where pwning you is often as easy as referring to sources you posted, but didn't read

I like when you write in this terse style. Much preferred over your cir locutory usual.

[Winehole23]

My style's a work in progress. Posting here has helped for sure.