is making an all star team consistently not an accomplishment? Maybe its not that important but its still impressive tbh, fan voting or what not, you must be doing something right.
If you look at the top 10, besides Cousy, it has 9 players that most people have in the top 10 - mj,russ,kaj,magic,kobe,shaq,duncan,bird,wilt. So I think its a pretty good rating scale tbh.
Scoring les, rebounding les, assists les, fg% les, and ft% les matter and are significant. Only a Duncan fan would think otherwise since Duncan did not have dominant stats.
Kobe made the all star game this year and he played 6 games. He made it in 1998 averaging 15 points per game on .420 shooting. Yao made it in 2011. He played 5 games.
It's meaningless.
So 5th in voting is an important accolade? You're using popularity as a marker unless you think Kobe deserved to be on the all defensive teams when he doesn't play a lick of defense. You don't count regular season wins but you count regular season 5th place voting results.Actually no I didn't. I tried to make the best rating that includes important accolades and rated them close to the one in the article. Of course its cherrypicked and biased because it doesn't have Duncan ahead though
Where's the penalty for missing the playoffs twice?
What about the years players make it because they are good?
If the stat can have meaningless instances, it's a meaningless stat. Untrustworthy stats are useless.
- championships and finals appearances
Its Kobe: 76, Duncan: 67
It's not an accomplishment. It's fan voting. It's a popularity contest. You cannot earn it, therefore it's not an accomplishment. You can be voted in without setting foot on the floor.
But of course you kept the averages leaders... cherry picker.
Don't you think finishing top 5 in mvp voting means you had a pretty good year? Might as well not use MVPs at all then if the votes don't matter at all.So 5th in voting is an important accolade? You're using popularity as a marker unless you think Kobe deserved to be on the all defensive teams when he doesn't play a lick of defense. You don't count regular season wins but you count regular season 5th place voting results.
Where's the penalty for missing the playoffs twice?
Christ!
Leading the league in scoring is "cherrypicking"
Absolutely, especially since it was during the Lakers worst years in the past decade, this one notwithstanding. So "led your team to a championship" means something. Stat s during sucky seasons don't mean anything, otherwise Kevin Love is the 2nd coming of Jesus.Christ!
Leading the league in scoring is "cherrypicking"
The mark of a great player is one who does what's needed to get to a championship. Kobe just volume shot for 2 years. That's not an indication of greatness. Had he spread the ball around and tried to elevate his team's overall play, everyone here would consider him in a better light.
WTF?
So take away rings and finals since their team accomplishments, but his scoring les don't count either since his TEAM HAD ITS WORST YEARS IN THE PAST DECADE
These guys I swear...
Winning an Finals MVP means you had a much better year. How is 2nd in MVP voting as good as that? How is a scoring le better?
So you'd consider Kevin Love one of the greatest players of the past however many years because of his regular season stats even though his team is a perpetual lottery team?WTF?
So take away rings and finals since their team accomplishments, but his scoring les don't count either since his TEAM HAD ITS WORST YEARS IN THE PAST DECADE
These guys I swear...
You cannot take away les. I'd be more inclined to take away the Finals MVP than the le. There are very few players who make the all time list who don't have les under their belts. It's almost a prerequisite.
You have to take into account the full body of work and take the stats in context of that body of work. You don't just input numbers and get player ratings that mean anything. That's why you have to see guys play instead of just crunching box scores.
Doesn't your team not only need to be REALLY GOOD but win the ing championship for a player to win FMVP?
you usually have to be a great team to get MVP voting as well... finals mvp means you came up on the big stage... runner up for MVP means you weren't considered to be the best player by mediaDoesn't your team not only need to be REALLY GOOD but win the ing championship for a player to win FMVP?
He's one of the best players this year yeah. His team is garbage but that doesn't mean he is too.
Are you not a Magic fan? Remember T-Mac? Was he statpadding loser and not a great player? You tell me.
No no no no no
Media doesn't vote MVP for the best player dude.
they typically vote for whichever player had the best season among the elite teamsNo no no no no
Media doesn't vote MVP for the best player dude.
He was a stat padding loser. His team did better without him than with him. Kevin Love doesn't play any defense at all, and just gets position for the rebound. His antics probably cost his teams games. Getting a stop often isn't recorded as a stat, but it's as good as getting a score.
Honestly, you don't seem to know anything about the game itself. The numbers would tell the truth if you had all the numbers, but they aren't recorded.
Really? How many does Lebron have again? How about Jordan?No no no no no
Media doesn't vote MVP for the best player dude.
The National Basketball Association Most Valuable Player (MVP) is an annual National Basketball Association (NBA) award given since the 1955–56 NBA season to the best performing player of the season.
Keywords: among elite teams
So if you're not on an elite team you have 0 chance of winning it. BUT you can still get in the top 5 voting on a mediocre team if you had a great season.
Six might be in the cards as well.
If you've been through a contract term already, and you're on a ty team still, that's an indication of your motive (money). That's a big part of your quality, you'd prefer to make money over win rings. It doesn't matter what you could do, only what you do.
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