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  1. #301
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    Alberto trying to claim that Kirby is a good passer because homer scorekeepers inflate his already-padded assists
    Well, of course, only our homer scorekeepers are homer scorekeepers. Just ours.

    tee, hee.

  2. #302
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    - you can't be serious. You farmers take the liberty to claim Tammy >>>>>> Kobe, but when I correctly point out that the "chucker" is actually a better passer statistically than yo girl Tammy, you come up with all that bull . Either he is a chucker, or he is a better passer than Tammy. He can't be both son. Why? Kobe clearly is a superior passer than Tammy. This little factoid not only dispells your chucker schtick, it makes you look raelly siputd.
    Do you even know what a chucker means? It doesn't mean a guy who doesn't get assists, it means a guy who shoots more than he should.

    The most FGs Duncan put up was in 01-02 season when he shot 1504 FGA, the Spurs, as a team shot 6363 shots, which means that Duncan himself shot 23.6% of the Spurs shot that year.

    Kobe, otoh, had 10 seasons where he shot more than 1504 FGA, peaking in 05-06 with 2173 of the Lakers 6607 shots. That's 32.9% of the shots. % wise, Kobe shot at a rate that is 39% more than Duncan, and in those respective seasons, Duncan had an assist rate of 18.3%, while Kobe had 24.1%, which is only 32% more, and that hasn't even taken into account that Kobe is a guard and Duncan is a PF.

    Second, Duncan only had a usage rate peak of 29.7% in 03-04 season, Kobe had 12 seasons with a higher usage rate, leading the league in 3 years in that category, with a peak of 38.7%, again coming in 05-06. So your assertion that the Spurs went through Duncan every time is false.

    What this tells us is that Kobe just shot more when he is used more, Duncan, on the other hand, used his teammates more in 03-04 even though the Spurs offense ran through him. One defines a chucker, the other doesn't.

    And I still can't believe you are trying to use assists as a metric to measure a chucker, it's like you never heard of Nate Archibald, Tim Hardaway, Allen Iverson, Steve Francis, and Stephon Marbury. All chuckers, all have a respectable apg.

  3. #303
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Kobe had 4.7 apg per 36 minutes throughout his career.

    Iverson had 5.4
    Marbury 7.3
    Tim Hardaway 8.3
    Nate Archibald 7.5
    Even the chuckiest of the chucker World B. Free had 4.4.

    Kobestans are such dumbasses

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    Your pain: it runs deep! Sybok's Avatar
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    Kobe had 4.7 apg per 36 minutes throughout his career.

    Iverson had 5.4
    Marbury 7.3
    Tim Hardaway 8.3
    Nate Archibald 7.5
    Even the chuckiest of the chucker World B. Free had 4.4.

    Kobestans are such dumbasses
    You cannot have apg per 36 minutes. That's two different measuring sticks.

  5. #305
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    You cannot have apg per 36 minutes. That's two different measuring sticks.
    My fault. I meant assists per 36 minutes. Those players all use the same metric.

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Kobe had 4.7 apg per 36 minutes throughout his career.

    Iverson had 5.4
    Marbury 7.3
    Tim Hardaway 8.3
    Nate Archibald 7.5
    Even the chuckiest of the chucker World B. Free had 4.4.

    Kobestans are such dumbasses
    All of the guys you mentioned having higher assist rates per 36 than Kobe are point guards... what a shocker!!!!!!!!

    Props for pointing out the obvious

  7. #307
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    All of the guys you mentioned having higher assist rates per 36 than Kobe are point guards... what a shocker!!!!!!!!

    Props for pointing out the obvious
    Positions matter now? Since when did Duncan start playing SG? Or is it Kobe's a PF?

    Less assists = chucker.

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Positions matter now? Since when did Duncan start playing SG? Or is it Kobe's a PF?

    Less assists = chucker.
    No you stick, these are players who hold the ball voluminously

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    No you stick, these are players who hold the ball voluminously
    And not the player who led the league in usage rate for three years?

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