All true.
I should have known there'd be some ass talking from the grey contingent
All true.
The Pelicans don't exactly practice superior defense. Sure the ball is easy to flow around the perimeter when no one is playing the passing lanes or if the other team is not long and athletic compared to others.
The Pacers are, as others have pointed out, one of if not THE best defensive team in the league. Passes around the perimeter are not going to get completed. They will turn into turnovers. Same is true of long outlet passes, sort of like happened last night.
Tony's 'dribbling, dribbling' as you term it is what is required for a motion offense so that one person (i.e. the pg) can test the defense for openings. The familiar Spurs "loop" play is little more than a variation on that. Either the point guard can dribble looking for an opening or draw defenders to him, which will create openings for other players, or in the loop play, one of the other team members hold the ball while Tony races around in a circle trying to lose the defender assigned to him, as do other members.
If the point guard does NOT take a shot when he has been penetrating (i.e. 'dribbling'), then the other team won't leave the other Spur's players open. Make it or miss it, the pg taking shots from the dribble forces the defenders to pay attention to him.
I really get the impression from your posts that you either dislike the Spurs' offensive scheme requirements when they are playing against good defenders, or you don't understand what you are watching.
Thank you. Much more concise statement of what I was trying inartfully to communicate.
Or I'm the only one that notices the dribble.....dribble off balance shot fade left.
but there are bad habits that every Spur has that annoy me. I'm just picking on Parker today.
I'll tell you guys what......
let's all take a shot of your favorite adult beverage every time TP takes a floating jump shot from this 41% white area or 37% pink area inside the arc as noted here:
And see how ed up we can get.![]()
No that sucks. Only my plan sounds fun as .
That would likely require hospitalization.![]()
People are misunderstanding the Spurs offense if they think Parker is hogging the ball. The reason why he keeps breaking plays is because each set is loaded with options for him and Duncan to take depending on the situation. The system is so dynamic because one set can turn into a dozen plays that every Spurs on the court can execute superbly. We can laud all the fancy ball movement as much as we want, but that's not the way the SL works or should work.
Tony is the lynchpin for the offense. He is the one who creates the initial mismatches that end up being turned into open shots. He needs to score a lot to force help and get players open. Complaining that Parker has the ball too much is like complaining that Prime Duncan posted up too much.
That said, there are definitely times where he should look for his teammates more often, especially his wings. Analysts make a point about guards feeding bigs to get them in rhythm and keep them motivated to do the dirty work. The New Two need to get their touches as well.
Pull up jumper != off balance (just look at how unbalanced Belinelli seems when he shot, doesn't mean he really is).
And yeah we are so ed up. 2 shots per game and at an average 40.5% in this white area.
At least we are lucky Tony is a 50%FG hero.
That's not even remotely true. The Loop gives Parker three distinct options (triple screen, reverse and pin down, and slipping the third screen and coming up to the ball. If all of those options are taken away (which is extremely rare), you'll see a high PnR with the high big and passer. The passer does not have the option to do anything until Parker's options have been exhausted, especially since all he could do is iso with the other four players involved in the original play. There's a reason why Manu and Beli stand there waiting for Parker to get open just as much as Green and Leonard do.
this team goes nowhere without MVParker. No NBA team has won it all with pure role players. Even Billups went supernova to take team oriented Pistons to the promised land.
You better take off/out Duncan to see his real value.
Thank you![]()
Then there's that whole other thing of "PG-led teams don't win championships"...![]()
Good stuff. You're probably one of the few others that knows what the Spurs run.
I would add tho that the other sets the Spurs run rely on Parker as well to create that initial mismatch. He really is the catalyst for what happens on the offensive end.
Pretty much.
I gotta say, I'm a little surprised none of you are with me on this.
Or maybe you're too afraid to agree out loud because of what the mob is saying.
I assure you TDMVPDPOY is with you on this. Too bad his basketball takes are poop.
Tony is not as good as last season and it looks like he almost hurts the ball movement recently. I think the spurs may even win more regular season games without him
That being said you can't rely only on ball movement / screens / cuts in the playoff. We have seen it every fuc**** years. You need a star that draw double team to get open jumpers / 3s in the playoff.
How many times do we need to see all our so great shooters fail in the playoff when the bench is playing without the big 3 or when the big 3 is not playing well enough to draw double team.
At this point of their career:
- Manu doesn't draw double team most of the time
- Timmy only if the matchup is favorable or if he gets the ball less than 3-5 ft of the rim
- Tony draw double team every time he drives to the basket. Sometimes even before when teams try to trap him like last year in the WCF
So Parker is still the player that we need to play well in the playoff IMO to have a shot
6-23
bench Enrique for patty in the 4th quarter =![]()
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