So they don't use the fourth or fifth tie-breaks for teams from the opposite conference?(4) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
(5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
Thanks, Mel. My apologies, Dex .
Right now, the teams each have four losses to the playoff teams in the other conference. If New York makes it in, the Spurs get a fifth loss, while if the Grizzlies can grab a win next week, the Heat get a fifth loss.
Right.
Actually, Mel_13 , everything I can find says it's just record against the opposing conference, and not against playoff teams. There were many articles about it three years ago when SA and Chicago finished tied or almost tied, but probably the most credible is this hangtime article:
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/0...-up-for-grabs/
Last edited by Chinook; 04-01-2014 at 10:17 AM.
Good to know.Thanks.
Actually, I think Chinook may be right. A lot of different sources are saying that the Finals don't follow the same tie-breaker basis as the one outlined at http://www.nba.com/standings/playoff_picture.html#tbb.
According to this article:
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...48484/28464214
What boggles the mind is that if this is really the case, I can't seem to find a lick of official do entation from the league about it.The official NBA tiebreakers have a complex and thorough system which would actually lead to a Bulls advantage were they put into play. However, as ESPN pointed out, and a league release confirmed, the Finals operate on a different structure. First tiebreaker is, of course, head-to-head record, the second record against opposing conference, and the third a random drawing.
Can you imagine HCA for the Finals coming down to a gottamn drawing?
Thanks for the further confirmation. Yeah, it's weird that they can't just write that one sentence somewhere to confirm it. I posted the Hangtime article, since I though the league would correct their own blogger if he was wrong.
Thanks for all that. Now I remember a similar discussion in 2011. Sad that you can't go to the NBA's official site and get a definitive answer.
Appreciate that.
Golden State/Dallas game went into OT. Golden State should hopefully be nice and tired going into tomorrow night's game
Wow. Curry just an insane step-back jumper to win the game in OT. That was huge for them...if they lost tonight's game and then lost to us tomorrow, they would've been in serious danger of missing the playoffs.
WESTERN W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK L10 1 x - San Antonio 58 16 .784 - 29-8 29-8 10-3 34-10 105.6 97.1 +8.4 Won 18 10-0 2 x - Oklahoma City 54 19 .740 3 ½ 31-7 23-12 11-5 32-13 106.2 99.4 +6.7 Won 2 8-2 3 x - LA Clippers 53 22 .707 5 ½ 31-5 22-17 9-4 32-13 107.6 100.5 +7.1 Won 3 8-2 4 Houston 49 24 .671 8 ½ 29-8 20-16 9-4 26-18 106.8 102.0 +4.9 Lost 2 5-5 5 Portland 48 27 .640 10 ½ 27-9 21-18 12-3 25-20 106.6 102.6 +4.1 Won 3 6-4 6 Golden State 46 28 .622 12 24-13 22-15 9-5 26-18 103.4 99.0 +4.4 Won 1 6-4 7 Memphis 44 30 .595 14 23-14 21-16 3-11 25-21 95.6 94.1 +1.5 Won 1 6-4 8 Phoenix 44 30 .595 14 25-13 19-17 7-7 24-20 105.4 102.6 +2.7 Lost 1 8-2 Dallas 44 31 .587 14 ½ 25-14 19-17 9-5 24-21 105.1 102.8 +2.3 Lost 1 6-4
They still might but it's hard to imagine. They've had tough injuries and since they're not as deep or as good as us, they haven't handled those setbacks as well as they would've liked. They're also dealing with their coach making an ass out of himself and putting himself over the team lately. They're due for an ass whipping tomorrow, tbh.
GSWs final 8 Games
@ SA, Sac, Utah, Den, @ L.A.L, @ Por, Min, @ Den
they should easily make the postseason even if they lose tomorrow.
They have no business finishing any less 7-1 or at worst 6-2 in their final 8. Considering they have a 2 game lead PHX and Memphis, they should be a lock for the playoffs.
PHX still seems unlikely to make the playoffs.
I just checked Suns' schedule. Man, that's more than brutal. I can only favor them in the last game against SAC.
Race to for Final playoff spots (7th and 8th seed)
tie breakers are extremely important given how similar the 3 teams records are. Memphis and Phoenix are 44-30 while Dallas is 44-31
Memphis leads Phoenix in season series (3-0 w/1 remaining)
Dallas leads Memphis (3-0, with a @ Memphis on the final night of the season)
Dallas and Phoenix split (1-1 with a final game @ Dallas on 4/12)
4/14 Memphis @ Phoenix
4/16 Dallas @ Memphis
Phoenix has the toughest schedule of the three (They have 9 games in 14 days, 6 games against +.500 teams, 5 on the road)
Yeah, they have an uphill battle for sure...
5 road games against teams with +.500 home records in 14 days is insane
the 3 home games are against teams that all have at-least a .550 road record
not sure where i want dal, phx and mem. i think dal or mem would be toughest for okc, and i worry about phx after they ran out on us, but i know not to put too much leverage into that loss.
If Lee is out tonight they could go with a 3 SF lineup. Rick Carlisle apparently prepared his team for a lineup of Curry, Thompson,Iggy, Green and Barnes (From ESPN)
I didn't watch the Dallas game, so I'm not sure if they used that lineup or not.
If they were to that route we could see a Parker, Green, Ginobili/Belinelli, Leonard and Diaw lineup to close the game (again, if they go that route)
Houston now just 1 game a head of Portland for the 4th spot (big, because they'd play in the second round)
Houston still seems a lock for a 1st round home court advantage. 2 of their final 8 games are against teams +.500. San Antonio is the 2nd to final game, we could easily rest our guys against them.
The Rockets also have won the season series against Portland 3-1.
WESTERN W L PCT GB HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK L10 1 y - San Antonio 59 16 .787 - 30-8 29-8 10-3 35-10 105.6 97.0 +8.6 Won 19 10-0 2 x - Oklahoma City 54 19 .740 4 31-7 23-12 11-5 32-13 106.2 99.4 +6.7 Won 2 8-2 3 x - LA Clippers 53 22 .707 6 31-5 22-17 9-4 32-13 107.6 100.5 +7.1 Won 3 8-2 4 Houston 49 25 .662 9 ½ 29-8 20-17 9-4 26-18 106.8 102.0 +4.7 Lost 3 5-5 5 Portland 49 27 .645 10 ½ 27-9 22-18 12-3 26-20 106.8 102.7 +4.2 Won 4 6-4 6 Golden State 46 29 .613 13 24-13 22-16 9-5 26-19 103.2 99.2 +4.1 Lost 1 5-5 7 Phoenix 44 30 .595 14 ½ 25-13 19-17 7-7 24-20 105.4 102.6 +2.7 Lost 1 8-2 8 Dallas 44 31 .587 15 25-14 19-17 9-5 24-21 105.1 102.8 +2.3 Lost 1 6-4 Memphis 44 31 .587 15 23-14 21-17 3-11 25-22 95.5 94.2 +1.3 Lost 1 6-4
Phoenix pulling away from LAC right now...up 17 near the end of the 3rd quarter. If they win, they'll be within 1 game of Golden State and the Clippers will be 2 games ahead of Houston.
And the Spurs will clinch a top-2 seed in the WC.
Just a 7 point game now. A Phoenix loss will leave Memphis, Dallas, and Phoenix tied at 44-31.
Yeah, looks like I spoke too soon. 3 point Phoenix lead with about 5 minutes left in the 4th.
Phoenix showing us why the wouldn't be such a bad first round matchup.
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