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he is an asshole. thanks for posting this in the beer thread too.
he is an asshole. thanks for posting this in the beer thread too.
How could any reasonable person think this is okay? I understand the need to make sure all viewpoints are heard, but they should at least be valid viewpoints.
I think the strategy is to come up with a comprehensively flawed plan that cannot be comprehensively fixed. Some interest will tangibly benefit from the new legal set up, even if 999 out of 1000 bad ideas are knocked down and price controls remain.
price controls, in reddest Texas . . .
for beer, of all things. boggles the mind.
Surprised? Repug govt means, everywhere, any and all regulations and law for screwing the 99% while protecting/enriching the 1% and big business.
it never surprises me that your mind is turned off and your mouth is an outgoing message recording
Last edited by Winehole23; 03-09-2013 at 12:06 PM.
Scott has been a busy guy.
I don't quite get the background behind this bill. Carona is a piece of for other things, but is he a bad guy here? Did i read right that Scott favored this bill?
It looks like the only people who favor this bill are the distributors.
http://www.kutnews.org/post/senate-a...new-beer-rulesSmall breweries and brew pubs would have more opportunities to sell their beer under several measures approved Monday by the Texas Senate.
The compromise between small brewers and distributors would require a $250 license for microbreweries and brewpubs to sell their product on-site. Brewpubs would be limited to distributing 1,000 barrels a year.
Scott Metzger of the Craft Brewers Guild calls it a win for beer lovers.
“It means more beer available to them, either in terms of getting your favorite brew pub beer at your favorite bar, restaurant or grocery store, but it also means now when you go to Blanco and visit Real Ale brewing, for example, you’ll be able to enjoy a pint there on premise.”, says Metzger.
Texas' current law bans pubs from packaging their beer for retail stores and also prevents breweries from selling beer to tour visitors.
The bills still have to pass the House and be signed by the Governor before any new rules take effect.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...ajor-bills.eceA two-pack of bills designed to bolster craft brews in the Lone Star State won passage Monday in the Senate, marking a historic victory for little beer.The legislation, endorsed 31-0 with no debate, lets brewpubs sell a limited amount of beer through distributors. And it will let craft breweries sell their products to consumers on-site.
The measure still must win approval in the House.
Still, backers said the latest action amounted to happiest of happy hours for Texas’ breweries and brewpubs, which numbered 59 at the end of last year.
“I’m amazed,” said Scott Metzger, the founder and CEO of Freetail Brewing Co. in San Antonio and a board member of the Texas Craft Brewers Guild. “Four years ago when we started working on this it was hard to get anyone to chat with us. To go from that to 31-0 is pretty amazing.”
Repugs really, really LOVE "free market"
Bill would require Florida craft brewers to sell beer to distributors, then buy it back for resale
The law would force craft brewers to sell their bottled and canned beer directly to a distributor. If they want to sell it in their own tap rooms, they would then have to buy it back at what is typically a 30-40 percent mark-up without the bottles or cans ever leaving the brewery, according to Joshua Aubuchon, a lawyer and lobbyist for the Florida Brewers Guild.
The rule would not apply to draft beer.
“That to me looks like racketeering,” Aubuchon told Reuters.
In Florida, where craft brewers say their market share remains under 6 percent and most breweries produce under 3,000 barrels annually, the small beer makers are out-gunned in the legislature, where influential politicians have vowed loyalty to the national distributors.
Mitch Rubin, lobbyist for the distributors’ Florida Beer Wholesalers Association, told Reuters their goal is to re-write the state’s rules governing the craft brewing industry to create strict lines between manufacturers, distributors and retailers, which he said would preserve compe ion.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/03/bill-would-require-florida-craft-brewers-to-sell-beer-to-distributors-then-buy-it-back-for-resale/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29
Nice bump.
John Carona lost his primary in no small part because of this stupid bill and the campaigning that small breweries in Dallas did for his opponent.
Around the country, beer distributors own certain legislators, and the Florida case is no different. Some of these legislators make no worry about hiding it either.
A direct quote from the Florida Senate President:
http://tbo.com/news/politics/florida...lers-20140316/“I don’t know,” Senate President Don Gaetz said when recently asked by The Associated Press why half-gallon growlers are illegal.
But the Panhandle Republican, who says he’s a free-market, anti-regulation, pro-business legislator, knows why the repeal is facing long odds again this year: a friend and major GOP donor, who happens to be a Budweiser distributor, asked him to support a bill that includes several provisions that the craft beer industry says will slow their rapid growth and could cause some to close.
While that sounds at odds with his principles, Gaetz acknowledged he will support whatever Anheuser-Busch InBev distributor Lewis Bear tells him to support.
“I’m with the beer distributors in my district,” Gaetz said recently. “That’s a very important issue because one of my very best friends is an Anheuser-Busch distributor and he never talks to me about his business. It’s always about what are we going to do for disabled children, what are we going to do for the arts, what are we going to do for economic development. But this time he’s talking about growlers.”
Bear, his company and his family have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to political committees and candidates, including more than $260,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and $31,000 to GOP Gov. Rick Scott’s campaign committee.
Brooklyn Brewery's Steve Hindy fired back with this Op Ed last weekend:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/op...beer.html?_r=0
Confusing article. Sounds like there were 4 bills but Carona's bill is the one that favors distributors?
Yeah, confusing article that wasn't completely accurate (and the KUT article that Winehole linked is way off base).
Basically, there were 5 bills: 4 supported by the Texas Craft Brewers Guild and 1 by the Distributors (the Carona bill).
The Carona bill was forced down our throats, whereas we were able to succeed on the 4 we supported. It's all the sticky game of politics, and I will tell you that on issues like these, party lines don't really matter. We had the whole political spectrum of support for ours, whereas the distributors had folks from the left and the right for these (usually aligned with how much their distributors donated to their campaigns).
This sounds like a convoluted mess.
I will just brew my own and die from methanol poisoning.
1000 barrels does not sound like much, wonder how this number was reached. Why not 10,000?
Both are nice round numbers. People don't like commas so they pick smaller numbers...?
It actually is 10,000. The article has it's facts wrong
Ok. It seemed small.
Is 100,000 too much like Coors? Like 400 barrels a day for 250 days is not really micro? After everything is sequenced and timed and all, full production or whatever...
Finally. Finally that piece of is gone. Finally.
24 years.....
I support the craft brewers. Better beer.
Scott my malted friend, I wanna know? Those vats even in small places of production look quite large?
They can be bad at their craft and blind you.
Isn't methanol only present when introduced on purpose; e.g., in rubbing alcohol to protect the profits of the liquor industry?
Well, Coors brews in the millions of barrels. Shiner is at about 600,000. The 10,000 number refers to one type of license. I can explain in more detail sometime... but coincidentally this fight isn't over. Here is a story from today. http://www.texastribune.org/2014/04/...rms-lawmakers/
"As citizens, we reserve the right to ask. If they get tired of dealing with the same stuff over and over, get it right the first time."
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