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you haven't established about me.
your Repug buddies are ing their poor, sick VOTERS who are too stupid and ignorant to vote the Repugs out
We've already establushed that you dont care about red state peasants anway...they're just a prop for your facile soliloquy theater.
you haven't established about me.
your Repug buddies are ing their poor, sick VOTERS who are too stupid and ignorant to vote the Repugs out
Which is precisely why I don't have any sympathy for them and you shouldn't either. Same thing with poor black people/be@ners who worship the white man's god.
which reminds me -- I gotta get on that tomorrowThere's going to be a similar surge of tax filings on Apr. 15. This will be a clear sign of success for our tax system.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post7179179
Oh no. It's quite well established. You did it yourself.
Why Did The GOP Just Expand Obamacare Choices?
At the prodding of business organizations, House Republicans quietly secured a recent change in President Barack Obama's health law to expand coverage choices, a striking, one-of-a-kind departure from dozens of high-decibel attempts to repeal or dismember it.
Democrats describe the change involving small-business coverage options as a straightforward improvement of the type they are eager to make, and Obama signed it into law. Republicans are loath to agree, given the strong sentiment among the rank and file that the only fix the law deserves is a burial.
"Maybe you say it helps (Obamacare), but it really helps the small businessman," said Rep. Phil Roe, R-Tenn., one of several physician-lawmakers among Republicans and an advocate of repeal.
No member of the House GOP leadership has publicly hailed the fix, which was tucked, at Republicans' request, into legislation preventing a cut in payments to doctors who treat Medicare patients.
It is unclear how many members of the House rank and file knew of it because the legislation was passed by a highly unusual voice vote without debate.
Several lobbyists and Republican aides who monitored the issue said the provision reflects a calculation that no matter how hard the party tries, the earliest the law can be repealed is after Obama leaves office in 2017. In the meantime, according to this line of thinking, small-business owners need all the flexibility that can get to comply with it.
One repeal-favoring Republican lawmaker took a similar view. "I was brought up in a family of 12. My mother taught me to be patient," said Rep. Tom Reed of New York, who backed a stand-alone bill to make the same change.
The provision itself was relatively minor. It eliminated a cap on deductibles for small group policies offered inside the law's health care exchanges as well as outside; the cap was set at $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for families.
Republicans said they sought it so small businesses can offer high-deductible plans that could be purchased by individuals who also have health savings accounts. These tax-preferred accounts are a long-time favorite of many Republicans, who say they give consumers greater control over their own health care.
The health law contains no deductible caps for individual plans or those offered by large employers, and the Department of Health and Human Services already had waived them for small businesses through 2015. The legislation means they will never go into effect.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/go...+%28TPMNews%29
You Won't Believe What These 10 Democrats Said About Obamacare! -- more --->>
"Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (April 6, 2010).
So here are the facts: if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.
The facts: “They might have to end up switching doctors in part because they’re saving money” (Barack Obama, March 14, 2014).
And “with respect to the pledge I made that if you like your plan you can keep it … the way I put that forward, unequivocally, ended up not being accurate” (Barack Obama, November 14, 2013).
Barack Obama (July 24, 2013).
[S]tarting on October 1st … you’ll be able to comparison-shop online. There will be a marketplace online, just like you’d buy a flat-screen TV or plane tickets or anything else you’re doing online.
The facts: “What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy,” most unlike “a flat-screen TV” (Barack Obama, November 14, 2013).
Barack Obama (March 23, 2010).
Once this reform is implemented, health insurance exchanges will be created, a compe ive marketplace where uninsured people and small businesses will finally be able to purchase affordable, quality insurance. They will be able to be part of a big pool and get the same good deal that members of Congress get.
The facts: Far from being “affordable,” quality” insurance, PPACA plans are marked by high co-pays, high deductibles, narrow networks, and narrow formularies.
And the PPACA marketplaces establish one Federal pool and many state pools, not “a big pool.”
Finally, “members of Congress and designated congressional staff will choose from 112 options in the Gold Metal tier” to retain the “Government contribution … for their health insurance coverage” for plan year 2014 (Office of Personnel Management). This is not the deal “uninsured people and small businesses” get, since they choose between Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum tiers, where only Silver (not Gold) can be subsidized.
Barack Obama (March 3, 2010).
[E]very idea has been put on the table. Every argument has been made. Everything there is to say about health care has been said and just about everyone has said it.
The facts: Single payer was not put “on the table” in hearings.
And in White House health care town hall transcripts, what single payer advocates had “to say” was censored.
-- more --->>
Obamacare is widening the gap between ‘red’ and ‘blue’ America
This chart tells the story:
The fact that the citizens of “red” and “blue” states live in what are essentially two countries with very different governments has largely flown under the radar, but it may become the defining story of our time. The two major parties are not only highly polarized ideologically, but as Dan Balz noted in The Washington Post, “polarization has ushered in a new era in state government, where single-party control of the levers of power has produced competing Americas.” Three-quarters of US states are now controlled by one of the two major parties — the most in 60 years — and “officials in these states are moving unen bered to enact their party’s agenda.”
When the Supreme Court ruled that states could decline Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion without facing a penalty, the justices set in motion a process that’s now pushing our two countries even further apart as about half of the states passed on the opportunity to insure their poorer residents.
The overall numbers are in, and for all its warts, Obamacare appears to have extended insurance coverage to about ten million people who didn’t have it before. (The precise number varies from study to study, but as Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo points out, they’re all in the same ballpark.)
According to Gallup, the share of Americans who lack health insurance has fallen to the lowest level since before the Great Recession began.
But the Urban Ins ute offers a fascinating finding: The rate of uninsured is now almost 50 percent higher in states that refused the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) Medicaid expansion (18.1 percent) than in those that embraced the policy (12.4 percent).
This growing coverage gap isn’t entirely a result of the Medicaid expansion — the rate of uninsured dropped by four percentage points in expanding states and 1.5 points in states that refused the expansion. Rather, it reflects the fact that “red” and “blue” states have always had very different budget priorities — the latter, as a group, have long spent more on health care, education and anti-poverty programs, and Obamacare’s ACA expansion, which offers billions of federal dollars to states that take it, is now deepening that divide.
Now that legislating is all but impossible in a deadlocked Washington, these kinds of differences between “red” and “blue” America will only grow starker. And it goes well beyond health care — last week, Maryland joined Connecticut in raising that state’s minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, and a number of other states under Democratic control are expected to follow. The same dynamic is playing out with other issues — from paid sick leave to prison reform to efforts to tackle climate change.
We’re witnessing an important real-world experiment in state governance, and as the Urban Ins ute study shows, the results are already coming in.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/0...-blue-america/
and still the bubbas, rednecks, tea baggers, faux patriots, old white poor male assholes, Christians in red states will vote Repug to screw themselves.
Oh looky. More asinine red/blue pidgeon holing for the intellectually re ed.
:facepalm
red states get screwed when they vote Repug. your evidence to the contrary?
I doubt you could even define the red/blue state criteria in the link much less fabricate a cogent standard by which a state is red or blue.
Your inability to define these standards is enough to refute any nonsense predicated upon these idiotic labels.
your evidence to the contrary? evidence that Repugs, state or federal, have done ONE ING THING for anybody who's not in the 1%, not a big corporation.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...#post5865781ed state/ blue state/Repugs
Pick a ing lane.
We tried to do this earlier only to watch you devolve into your tautology club act..
You are incapable of a rational arguement....that's why you're considered a joke on this bbs.
TB nothing to say
Repug corporate welfare escapes cuts
U.S. government rolls back proposed Medicare Advantage cut
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/0...e+Raw+Story%29
Medicare Advantage costs taxpayers about 10% more that Medicare, shifting taxpayer $10Bs to corporations annually.
evidence that Repugs, state or federal, have done ONE ING THING for anybody who's not in the 1%, not a big corporation?
ya got NUTHIN
Case in point
Nobody's has missed the point you cannot even sniff this.
Now, go move the goal posts again with another cutt and paste from some moonbat blog nobody will read.
let's see: red state is controlled by Repugs, blue state controlled by Dems. got that?
and
evidence that Repugs, state or federal, have done ONE ING THING for anybody who's not in the 1%, not a big corporation? ????
That's not the criteria used in your moonbat blog cite.
And ignore this again, coward. EPA.
the Repugs who did the EPA, OSHA, etc. are not the Repugs from 1975 forward.
Today's Repug want to kill EPA, OSHA, Clean Water Act, all enviro regs, all employee health/protection regs, allow child labor, kill the minimum wage, kill Medicare and SS, etc, etc.
Predictable goal post move per par.
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