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I think Paul George got the max
I say yes. He is better than Gordon Hayward, Kyrie Irving, Tyreke Evans type dudes.
I think Paul George got the max
Kawhi is a better defender and shooter and way better at rebounding and posting up vs. Paul George who is a better athlete.
He should get our 5 year extension, but maybe just under the max.
If the max is $78m/5yr (Harden deal), I'd like to see if we could get Kawhi for $65m/5yr
When the coach starts calling you the "future face of the franchise", then you start to expect max extension money. Kawhi may not quite be on the same superstar tier as Durant and James, but he could certainly get that money elsewhere.
That being said, this franchise is known for being financially conscious, and has a line of Hall of Famers that have set the example of taking less money for the team. Hopefully, Kawhi buys into that and follows the example. Otherwise, if the Spurs have to spend max money to keep him...I still think he is worth it.
Kawhi could be the difference from this team continuing to be a perennial playoff team, or becoming a cellar dweller for a rebuild bid.
Melo is about to get 130 over 5. I'd say Kawhi is easily worth 80. With Tiago making 9 a year, there's no chance Kawhi makes less than 15/per.
I say you offer him the max. Slightly lower to include an opt out and tell him to figure out a lower number for himself if he chooses to.
Kawhi will be making more per year than Manu or Tony ever made.
5year/60 millions is fair
There's no chance he makes more than $15mm a year either unless the cap goes above $60mm. 25% of cap unless he makes two all NBA teams, starts two ASG Ss or is MVP. They'll offer him the 5 year extension (won't pull a TWolves with Love) and probably in the $12-$13 range (around what Richie above said and Tony's current deal). Love got the opt out and look where it left them...
This is what he needs to accept in order for the Spurs to have some potential of building a solid team.
Giving Leonard a max deal really won't hurt the cap much. But if he gets the Rose max, that would be too expensive.
70 mil/5 years sounds good.
this..
Anything over that is overpaying IMO.
Lakers must be salivating. Riverside kid to save their bacon and no one else on the horizon.
Not max but maybe like 65 or 70% of max.
Gotta lock him up. He's the real deal on both sides of the court, humble as well, which is very hard to find in the league nowadays..
60 over 5 would be such a bargain tbh...
if we can somehow get him to make only ~10 M a year annually though we are set for the future. The problem with that though is he saw Tiago get 9 M a year and he probably thinks that he should definitely be making more than Tiago. He's not wrong at all and absolutely deserves a fat contract, but it'd be great if he could go easy on us lol
Max players are offensive beasts, this thread is so stupid, it's like people can't wait to become Denver...
That's a great point, the Tiago extension ed the salary scale for the near future tbh... That's one of the not so obvious tribute they paid for continuity...
No way. 5 years, 60 million would be ideal ($12 million per) at most 5 years, 70 million (14 million per)
His contract actually descends, so I'm not sure how it messes up the cap.
It messes it up not so much in terms of its actual impact on the cap itself, but on the implications it has. Kawhi clearly has more potential and is a better player, and just saw a big man on his team who can't even stay on the court in certain matchups get paid about 9 million a year annually. You don't think Kawhi saw that and thought if he got 9 M i better be getting at least an 8 figure salary? He definitely deserves it, but Tiago's contract kind of set the bar for what Kawhi should get.
It helps with the cap because the Spurs are well over the cap this season and will be well over it next season. By the time the Spurs potentially get significant cap space (summer of 2015), Tiago's salary will be $8.5M. If it were an increasing contract with max raises it would have been about $9.3M in year 3 (the structure would be roughly $8.09/$8.7/$9.3/$9.91). So about a $800k savings.
Not really. Tiago got paid about average money for a starting center. He's actually still a good deal, but we'll leave that for another thread. Splitter making $9 Million is like Leonard making $7 Million. Leonard making $11-12 Million would be like Splitter making $14-15 Million. Look at the best teams and see how many of them have no bigs among their highest salary players. Outside OKC, I can't think of any who don't have one in the top two.
I suspect what he get's is partially dependent on the number they have in mind for Parker, who's been underpaid on his current contract (and has mentioned that he was willing to take below market value because he believed Pop would take care of him), which means he'll probably be overpaid on his next one. I say that because I can't imagine them paying him more than Parker.
That said, $12-14M is the likely range. Whether is skews to the lower or higher end of that is largely irrelevant though, considering the Spurs' clean cap sheet going forward.
I don't agree with that at all. Different situations. Splitter is an accomplished big man with years of pro (international) experience. He got an extension that was market value (Portland was reportedly interested in him). Leonard is certainly going to have a bigger payday anyway so I'm not sure why Splitter getting 4 year, $36 million matters to him.
Leonard certainly has more potential at the moment both have similar value to the team. Splitter provides rim protection and rebounding (especially important when Duncan is off the floor and when he eventually retires). Leonard's perimeter defense, rebounding along with efficient scoring.
Big men with talent get payed north of $10 million.
There are 57 players currently making $10,000,000+
Centers-19 (33%)
Small Forwards-13 (22%)
It would be like wide receiver looking at a running backs contract and asking for similar cash.
Leonard should, at the very least, get $12 million a season. I'd peg his next deal at 5 years, $60-70 million (12-14 million annually)
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