REAL PLUS MINUS: Duncan #8, Manu #9, Tiago #29, Parker #39

[Gino-Step]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

No Parker no problems. That boy is overrated. Manu at #9 in the entire league at age 36, and Duncan at age 37 being #8 just shows you how much coat riding Parker has done. By the time Parker is 36, he won't be in the league.

[spurraider21]

your boy kawhi leonard is below Draymond Green, DeMarre Carrol, Jae Crowder, and Mike Dunleavy

[Brazil]

the parker hater wave trolls are in constant flow each and every year, spontaneous generation after another... have to respect guys like lefty... they hate since 2003

these waves are plain awful

[Brazil]

your boy kawhi leonard is below Draymond Green, DeMarre Carrol, Jae Crowder, and Mike Dunleavy

not sure how is he going to spin dat one but if I had to bet I guess he will go with the Parker doesn't pass the ball to Leonard or search for leonard + / - when parker doesn't play...

[SpursFan86]

I have serious questions about any stat that has this list as the top 10 SFs:

1) LeBron
2) Iggy
3) Durant
4) DeMarre Carroll
5) Matt Barnes
6) Paul Pierce
7) Mike Dunleavy
8) Melo
9) Jae Crowder
10) Luol Deng

[MeloHype]

Kawhi is below Kobe

[Mel_13]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

No Parker no problems. That boy is overrated. Manu at #9 in the entire league at age 36, and Duncan at age 37 being #8 just shows you how much coat riding Parker has done. By the time Parker is 36, he won't be in the league.

[Halberto]

Matt Bonner at 49 while Kawhi is in the 80's...... already a busted stat

[cd021]

I have serious questions about any stat that has this list as the top 10 SFs:

1) LeBron
2) Iggy
3) Durant
4) DeMarre Carroll
5) Matt Barnes
6) Paul Pierce
7) Mike Dunleavy
8) Melo
9) Jae Crowder
10) Luol Deng

go home ESPN, you're drunk.

[101A]

Glossary
Glossery
Glossary

• GP: Games Played
• MPG: Minutes Per Game
• ORPM: Player's estimated on-court impact on team offensive performance, measured in points scored per 100 offensive possessions
• DRPM: Player's estimated on-court impact on team defensive performance, measured in points allowed per 100 defensive possessions
• RPM: Player's estimated on-court impact on team performance, measured in net point differential per 100 offensive and defensive possessions. RPM takes into account teammates, opponents, coaches and additional factors
• WAR: The estimated number of team wins attributable to each player, based on RPM

By what estimation?

[spurraider21]

offensive and defense rating have always been estimates, which is why i dont always care for those figures

[jag]

Kawhi #85

No Kawhi no problems. That boy is overrated. Manu at #9 in the entire league at age 36, and Duncan at age 37 being #8 just shows you how much coat riding Kawhi has done. By the time Kawhi is 30, he won't be in the league.

fify

[HarlemHeat37]

Pretty sure this is RAPM without the prior, right?..

Because when you include adjustments for prior seasons, which makes RAPM the most accurate +/- stat available IMO, Parker has been in the top 5 the past few seasons..

[SpursFan86]

Pretty sure this is RAPM without the prior, right?..

Because when you include adjustments for prior seasons, which makes RAPM the most accurate +/- stat available IMO, Parker has been in the top 5 the past few seasons..

IIRC, it's xRAPM but also uses box score stats and a few other factors like height and coaching.

BTW, Parker is always ranked really low by RAPM. In 2010 and 2011 he had a negative RAPM. In 2012 and 2013 he was positive, but still not in the top 25.

Duncan is the guy who RAPM loves. Since 2000, the lowest he's ever been is 6th in the league.

source: http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/

[Brazil]

Gino-Step

[Cry Havoc]

Kawhi is probably low because he doesn't score a ton and is usually guarding the best player on the other team.

[HarlemHeat37]

IIRC, it's xRAPM but also uses box score stats and a few other factors like height and coaching.

BTW, Parker is always ranked really low by RAPM. In 2010 and 2011 he had a negative RAPM. In 2012 and 2013 he was positive, but still not in the top 25.

Duncan is the guy who RAPM loves. Since 2000, the lowest he's ever been is 6th in the league.

source: http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/

Parker has been in the top 5 in prior-informed RAPM the past 2 seasons IIRC..

https://sites.google.com/site/rapmst...dated-march-30

[Johnny RIngo]

It should be noted that Parker's been pretty ing awful this season. Shouldn't be surprising that he's coming out poorly in these stats. His numbers were impressive last year though(until he choked in the Finals)

[cd021]

the parker hater wave trolls are in constant flow each and every year, spontaneous generation after another... have to respect guys like lefty... they hate since 2003

these waves are plain awful

amazing how many groups there are on ST . Anti Manu, Anti Parker, Anti Splitter, Anti Green Anti Pop etc.

[Macca76]

the parker hater wave trolls are in constant flow each and every year, spontaneous generation after another... have to respect guys like lefty... they hate since 2003

these waves are plain awful

Brazil, is Gino-Step the new leader of the Parker haters ?

[hater]

amazing how many groups there are on ST . Anti Manu, Anti Parker, Anti Splitter, Anti Green Anti Pop etc.

And yet only one of those players changed sides midseries last year and cost us a championship

[Macca76]

[ElNono]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

No Parker no problems. That boy is overrated. Manu at #9 in the entire league at age 36, and Duncan at age 37 being #8 just shows you how much coat riding Parker has done. By the time Parker is 36, he won't be in the league.

[Brazil]

Brazil, is Gino-Step the new leader of the Parker haters ?

He is not a leader, he is too ty for that. To be a good leader you have to have some of the following: credibility because you hatin' for a long time (see lefty) or entertaining at least (see tmvpdpoty) or annoying (see kool bob love) or smart (see...yet to be found)... I'm not sure gino step will able to lead anybody with ty stat list that put Leonard below Mike Dunleavy when all spurs fans are in love with Leonard.

but he is the last "I on Parker" troll so there is that tbh

POs are close I fully expect new sleeping trolls to wake up while the old army will do their thing

[Phenomanul]

IIRC, it's xRAPM but also uses box score stats and a few other factors like height and coaching.

BTW, Parker is always ranked really low by RAPM. In 2010 and 2011 he had a negative RAPM. In 2012 and 2013 he was positive, but still not in the top 25.

Duncan is the guy who RAPM loves. Since 2000, the lowest he's ever been is 6th in the league.

source: http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/

David Robinson led the league every year from 1990 - 1999 (except the year he only played 6 games). #ForeverUnderrated


1990-1991 6.3/200 (Ranked 1st)
1991-1992 8.9/200 (Ranked 1st)
1992-1993 7.9/200 (Ranked 1st)
1993-1994 9.3/200 (Ranked 1st)
1994-1995 9.0/200 (Ranked 1st)
1995-1996 9.0/200 (Ranked 1st)
1996-1997 2.8/200 (Ranked 24th) (only played 6 games)
1997-1998 6.9/200 (Ranked 1st)
1998-1999 8.9/200 (Ranked 1st)
1999-2000 6.1/200 (Ranked 3rd)
2000-2001 8.0/200 (Ranked 3rd)
2001-2002 6.8/200 (Ranked 4th)
2002-2003 6.3/200 (Ranked 7th)