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    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/m...-many-one.html



    The ongoing trial involving journalist Mark Steyn – accused of defaming climate change theorist Michael Mann – reflects an increasingly dangerous tendency among our intellectual classes to embrace geneity of viewpoint. Steyn, whose column has appeared for years on these pages, may be alternatingly entertaining or over-the-top obnoxious, but the slander lawsuit against him marks a milestone in what has become a dangerously authoritarian worldview being adopted in academia, the media and large sections of the government bureaucracy.

    Let’s call it “the debate is over” syndrome, referring to a term used most often in relationship with climate change but also by President Barack Obama last week in reference to what remains his contentious, and theoretically reformable, health care plan. Ironically, this shift to certainty now comes increasingly from what passes for the Left in America.

    These are the same people who historically have identified themselves with open-mindedness and the defense of free speech, while conservatives, with some justification, were associated more often with such traits as criminalizing unpopular views – as seen in the 1950s McCarthy era – and embracing canonical bans on all sorts of personal behavior, a tendency still more evident than necessary among some socially minded conservatives.

    But when it comes to authoritarian expression of “true” beliefs, it’s the progressive Left that increasingly seeks to impose orthodoxy. In this rising intellectual order, those who dissent on everything from climate change, the causes of poverty and the definition of marriage, to opposition to abortion are increasingly marginalized and, in some cases, as in the Steyn trial, legally attacked.

    A few days ago, Brendan Eich, CEO of the web browser company Mozilla, resigned under pressure from gay rights groups. Why? Because it was revealed he donated $1,000 to the campaign to pass Proposition 8, California’s since-overturned ballot measure defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

    In many cases, I might agree with some leftist views, say, on gay marriage or the critical nature of income inequality, but liberals should find these intolerant tendencies terrifying and dangerous in a democracy dependent on the free interchange of ideas.

    This shift has been building for decades and follows the increasingly uniform capture of key ins utions – universities, the mass media and the bureaucracy – by people holding a set of “acceptable” viewpoints. Ironically, the shift toward a uniform worldview started in the 1960s, in part as a reaction to the excesses of Sen. Joseph McCarthy and the oppressive conformity of the 1950s.

    But what started as liberation and openness has now engendered an ever-more powerful clerisy – an educated class – that seeks to impose particular viewpoints while marginalizing and, in the most-extreme cases, criminalizing, divergent views.

    Today’s clerisy in some ways resembles the clerical First Estate in pre-revolutionary France, which, in the words of the historian Georges Lefebvre, “possessed a control over thought in the interests of the Church and king.” With today’s clerisy, notes essayist Joseph Bottum, “social and political ideas [are] elevated to the status of strange divinities ... born of the ancient religious hunger to perceive more in the world than just the give and take of ordinary human beings, but adapted to an age that piously congratulates itself on its escape from many of the strictures of ancient religion.”

    To be sure, there remains a still-potent camp of conservative ideologues, many associated with think tanks, such as the Heritage Foundation, and a host of publications, most notably the media empire controlled by the Murdoch family. But, for the most part, today’s clerisy in media and academia tilts in one basic direction, embracing a fairly uniform set of secular “truths” on issues ranging from the nature of justice, race and gender, to the environment.

    Those who dissent from the “accepted” point of view may not suffer excommunication, burning at the stake or other public rituals of penance, but can expect their work to be vilified or simply ignored. In some bastions of the new clerisy, such as San Francisco, an actress with unsuitable views can be pilloried, and a campaign launched to remove her from a production for supporting a Tea Party candidate.

    Nowhere is this shift more evident than in academia, as evidenced in Mann’s civil action against Steyn. The climate change issue, one of great import and worthy of serious consideration, is now being buried by the seemingly unscientific notion that everyone needs to follow orthodoxy on an issue that – like the nature of God in the Middle Ages – is considered “settled,” and those who do not agree deserve to be pilloried.

    But climate change is just one manifestation of the new authoritarian view in academia. On many college campuses, “speech codes” have become an increasingly popular way to control thought at many campuses. Like medieval dons, our academic worthies concentrate their fire on those whose views – say on social issues – offend the new canon. No surprise, then, as civil libertarian Nat Hentoff notes, that a 2010 survey of 24,000 college students found that barely a third of them thought it “safe to hold unpopular views on campus.”

    This is not terribly surprising, given the lack of intellectual diversity on many campuses. Various studies of political orientation of academics have found liberals outnumber conservatives, from 8-to-1 to 14-to-1. Whether this is a reflection of simply natural preferences of the well-educated or partially blatant discrimination remains arguable, but some research suggests that roughly two of five professors would be less inclined to hire an evangelical or conservative colleague than one more conventionally liberal.

    Political uniformity is certainly in vogue. A remarkable 96 percent of presidential campaign donations from the nation’s Ivy League faculty and staff in 2012 went to Obama, a margin more reminiscent of Soviet Russia than a properly functioning pluralistic academy.

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    Kock/Bircher-land OCR ing about backlash to right-wing, corporate-funded LYING and denying scientific facts, and slandering the backlash as orthodoxy, conformity, authoritarian, etc, etc.


    "Heritage Foundation" one of the original stink tanks from early 1970s funded by the VRWC, ie, PAID to propagandize, LIE, SLANDER

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    Good article. Too bad progressives/liberals don't see their hypocrisy in orthodoxy.

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    Kock/Bircher-land OCR ing about backlash to right-wing, corporate-funded LYING and denying scientific facts, and slandering the backlash as orthodoxy, conformity, authoritarian, etc, etc.


    "Heritage Foundation" one of the original stink tanks from early 1970s funded by the VRWC, ie, PAID to propagandize, LIE, SLANDER
    Says the poster-boy for thinkprogress.

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    Hmmm, I wonder if there's a reason that academics tend to be more progressive than not? Probably just liberal brainwashing. Certainly not the fact GOP's stance on issues such as funding of higher ed, denying evolution and climate change, or their vilification of being an academic to begin with.

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    I don't know about many of the topics the article talks about as it attempts to lump everything under the sun they disagree with into one freaking article. The piece overall stinks of a "hey this is why progressives" suck hit piece as opposed to anything with actual substance. Thats probably why Darrin liked it enough to post it.

    In the case of the antidefimation lawsuit, it certainly is not a situation where people who are denying climate change are being sued. Its a case where a climatologist was compared with a child molester in a publication for the purposes of discrediting his scientific work when every independent review panel/board/group who has analyzed his work has said its fine. If this is the type of behavior Darrin wants to defend then that is up to him but miscatagorizing that lawsuit as a suppression of free speech is hilarious. Whether or not there's a legal case I have no clue as I am not an expert on slandar/defemation law but I do know that multiple judges have decided the case has enough merit to go forward and be heard.

    Don't really care much about the rest of the rant, I mean article except that I would say I agree that speech codes aren't a good idea on a university campus. I get their targeted to kill hate speech but I still think that they are inherently wrong and I'm pretty sure that most court cases have ruled against them.

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    Hmmm, I wonder if there's a reason that academics tend to be more progressive than not? Probably just liberal brainwashing. Certainly not the fact GOP's stance on issues such as funding of higher ed, denying evolution and climate change, or their vilification of being an academic to begin with.
    You would think that higher learning would be neutral. Too bad it isn't.

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    "hey this is why progressives"

    ok, but also "this is why (hired) conservatives are equal to progressives and therefore deserve respect" for their lying, slander, propaganda

    iow, just another case of right-wing false equivalence, like creationism is as plausible as evolution, etc, etc.

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    You would think that higher learning would be neutral. Too bad it isn't.
    Why on earth are they supposed to be neutral?

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    Why on earth are they supposed to be neutral?
    Why should they be political?

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    Um, because we're citizens with interests just like anyone else?

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    Um, because we're citizens with interests just like anyone else?
    Taking political bias out of teaching doesn't curtail teaching.

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    This is the kind of reason why I just ignore you. Who said anything about teaching? The article complains about the political leaning of people in academia being overly progressive. It's not academia's fault the GOP s on it but it doesn't mean they have to develop Stockholm syndrome and support them. Also, political neutrality certainly isn't going to happen in most upper division courses as the professor is going to teach from their perspective. Thats the whole point of taking a class from an expert. A graduate level evolutionary biology course isn't going to change what is taught simply to please some creationist politician.

    But yes, WC, tell us with all your academic expertise what the academic environment should be like.

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    Taking political bias out of teaching doesn't curtail teaching.
    who said they have have political bias in their teaching?

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    You would think that higher learning would be neutral. Too bad it isn't.
    In cases like climate change and evolution, "neutral" to you would mean watering down facts to appease people who are wrong.

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    In cases like climate change and evolution, "neutral" to you would mean watering down facts to appease people who are wrong.
    Believe as you wish. I disagree with your take. The climate sciences are built on a false foundation as to CO2's sensitivity. There hasn't been any empirical work on the topic that addresses a mixed atmosphere. Any study you find cites other papers, which in turn cite other papers. The root papers correlates cause and effect without properly addressing all variables.

    The climate sciences have become a political tool, used by those in power to increase their authoritarian stance and control over others. Just look at who gets funded by the government. Only those looking for more alarmists ideals.

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    LOL at some of the this guy spews.

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    LOL at some of the this guy spews.
    some?

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    Hmmm, I wonder if there's a reason that academics tend to be more progressive than not? Probably just liberal brainwashing. Certainly not the fact GOP's stance on issues such as funding of higher ed, denying evolution and climate change, or their vilification of being an academic to begin with.
    i'm pretty sure its a lot like a bell curve. at the low end of the academic spectrum you have the deadbeat uneducated folks who vote democrat for all the stereotypical reasons. close to the middle of the academic spectrum you have the people that are making money, and vote republican for the stereotypical reasons. then at the high end you have the guys with doctorates, etc who tend to vote democrat/progressive for more idealistic reasons.

    of course, this isn't an absolute, but this is at least the impression i get

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    Stupid progressives and their "Debate is Over" about cigarettes causing cancer.

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    an increasingly dangerous tendency among our intellectual classes to embrace geneity of viewpoint.




    The debate is over unless you are into conspiracy theories.

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    Good article. Too bad progressives/liberals don't see their hypocrisy in orthodoxy.
    People who believe in pseudoscientific bull should be ostracized.

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    People who believe in pseudoscientific bull should be ostracized.
    No, they should be shown wrong with empirical evidence. If that doesn't occur, then maybe you are calling it wrong.

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    No, they should be shown wrong with empirical evidence. If that doesn't occur, then maybe you are calling it wrong.
    Dude, you have argued with mouse, and thrown in with Cosmored on occasion.

    Do you think showing them empirical evidence did anything?

    Conspiracy theorists have some very-hard-to-dislodge beliefs.

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    People who don't share my beliefs should be ostracized.
    fify

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