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    It's not an issue for potheads...now your offering these products to the general public. It's not going to take much bad press to get the federal govt and politicians of all stripes to give up on this experiment.
    So what is that number of deaths from unregulated edible marijuana again?

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    Imagine if edible pot got you high quickly, then you kept eating it at a high rate for a couple of hours and it just ing killed you.

    Then it would be like vodka.
    Alcohol poisoning is much more of a real problem. He apparently has never heard of it. That it can't happen, boom!
    It can.

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    So what is that number of deaths from unregulated edible marijuana again?
    I'm not going to play your dumb game Chump. If you and others want to believe it's clear sailing for the legalization of marijuana enjoy your fantasy.

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    Alcohol poisoning is much more of a real problem. He apparently has never heard of it. That it can't happen, boom!
    It can.
    Again, alcohol is firmly established as a legal product. That makes the analogies irrelevant.

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    I'm not going to play your dumb game Chump. If you and others want to believe it's clear sailing for the legalization of marijuana enjoy your fantasy.
    Its hardly clear sailing...

    For Texas, no way.

    And I totally accept the point that pot needs to be labeled like other products. Some sort of THC conc. made clear to the consumer.

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    Again, alcohol is firmly established as a legal product. That makes the analogies irrelevant.
    More stupidity. We are talking about a test policy. It's also an intoxicant. Alcohol at one point was illegal and was then made legal. The relative health impact to firmly established legal products is especially telling.

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    I'm not going to play your dumb game Chump. If you and others want to believe it's clear sailing for the legalization of marijuana enjoy your fantasy.
    I never said it was.

    I looked up the answer since you are afraid to.

    The total number of deaths from unregulated edible marijuana in the history of the United States is......

    0

    (zero)

    The number of deaths in the single year 2010 directly attributable to alcohol....

    25,692

    (twenty-five thousand, six hundred ninety-two)

    I'm sure someone will try to make political hay out of this one dudes death. I'm merely saying it's the stupidest thing over which to make political hay, comparatively speaking.

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    Again, alcohol is firmly established as a legal product. That makes the analogies irrelevant.
    Unless you are making the analogies, that is.

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    Again, alcohol is firmly established as a legal product. That makes the analogies irrelevant.
    Its legal because it's socially acceptable. You mean you have never troubled yourself enough to ask why alcohol is and pot is not? Well now it looks like pot is becoming socially acceptable in some states. So there you go. This firmly established crap...

    Lovey to Thurston: Dear, let's go have a nightcap. And the adults laughed.The conservative adults could have that martini at night, but bong it up... Dear, dear... That's like...like... Woodstock!

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    More stupidity. We are talking about a test policy. It's also an intoxicant. Alcohol at one point was illegal and was then made legal. The relative health impact to firmly established legal products is especially telling.
    I posted articles about the challenges the legalization effort faces (which I support). If they response from the legalization crowd in general is...duh What about alcohol...duh What about Tylenol...duh You can OD on water...Oh yeah personal responsibility... then the future of marijuana legalization is bleak. Amazing, it's a political forum and none of you can acknowledge the political challenges the legalization of marijuana faces.

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    I think the basic common sense that got pot legalized in the first place will eventually win out.

    And that will involve comparisons to drugs like alcohol and OTC pain relievers.

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    Unless you are making the analogies, that is.
    Ya'll started with the analogies.

    Too bad you can't discuss political issues on a political forum.

    WhooHoo!!! We all gonna be allowed to get high someday.

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    And I haven't ingested or smoked pot in a long, long time.

    Nor would I plan on starting were it legalized.

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    I think the basic common sense that got pot legalized in the first place will eventually win out.
    Then I think you don't grasp politics.

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    Ya'll started with the analogies.
    And you tried to say they didn't count before and after making your own analogy.

    Too bad you can't discuss political issues on a political forum.
    We are.

    WhooHoo!!! We all gonna be allowed to get high someday.
    See above.

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    I posted articles about the challenges the legalization effort faces (which I support). If they response from the legalization crowd in general is...duh What about alcohol...duh What about Tylenol...duh You can OD on water...Oh yeah personal responsibility... then the future of marijuana legalization is bleak. Amazing, it's a political forum and none of you can acknowledge the political challenges the legalization of marijuana faces.
    It does face difficulty.

    The question is why? In order to ascertain why, one might look at social norms and the history of other drugs that have been abused. One chemical that we will not look at is cyanide. One chemical we will look at is ethanol.

    Why is this so difficult to understand?

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    Then I think you don't grasp politics.
    I said eventually.

    People will see that thousands per year are dying from alcohol while none are dying from pot.

    Just like people are seeing that the gays are not destroying straight marriage.

    Just like people saw that whatever they thought was going to happen by drinking from an integrated water fountain didn't happen.(what did they think would happen, anyway?).

    I know politics is made to take advantage of the fears of idiots. I also know that it doesn't have to be like that forever.

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    People will see that thousands per year are dying from alcohol while none are dying from pot.
    Well one did.

    And don't forget about the children.

    There already are incidences of young children ingesting edible marijuana. Even before passage of the legalization initiative, at least 14 children who had ingested marijuana went to the emergency room at Children's Hospital Colorado between 2009 and 2011, according to a study reported in the Journal of the American Medical Assn.

    All were under 12; one was 8 months old. Two of the children ended up in the intensive care unit. Symptoms ranged from sleepiness to coma.

    In the four years prior, before medical marijuana use in the state skyrocketed, there were no such cases.


    What about the children always works come election time.

    It's funny, I post two articles in which show that Colorado politicians (you know the ones who legalized marijuana) are saying that edibles are posing a problem and the response is "Oh no it isn't".

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    Does anyone have any thoughts on how edibles should be handled policy wise or is stick your head in the sand the ST consensus?

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    Does anyone have any thoughts on how edibles should be handled policy wise or is stick your head in the sand the ST consensus?
    Let's keep score. So far we have...

    1.) Attack Big Pharma
    2.) compare to alcohol
    3.) compare to Tylenol
    4.) Talk about personal responsibility

    Did I miss any?

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    Well one did.

    It's funny, I post two articles in which show that Colorado politicians (you know the ones who legalized marijuana) are saying that edibles are posing a problem and the response is "Oh no it isn't".
    Show me where I said it won't be used as a political football to pander to idiots.

    I said that's exactly what will happen.

    Do you think it is as stupid as I do or are you just refusing to have an opinion?

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    Let's keep score. So far we have...

    1.) Attack Big Pharma
    2.) compare to alcohol
    3.) compare to Tylenol
    4.) Talk about personal responsibility

    Did I miss any?
    Yeah, you missed caveat emptor.

    I asked you directly what nanny state law you wanted to see; You started beating up straw men.

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    Yeah, you missed caveat emptor.

    I asked you directly what nanny state law you wanted to see; You started beating up straw men.
    I already said I think Colorado has made a mistake legalizing edibles.

    I also think they made a mistake levying such high taxes on marijuana.

    Both pose a threat to further legalization efforts imo.

    Do you have any thoughts on how edibles should be handled policy wise?

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    I posted articles about the challenges the legalization effort faces (which I support). If they response from the legalization crowd in general is...duh What about alcohol...duh What about Tylenol...duh You can OD on water...Oh yeah personal responsibility... then the future of marijuana legalization is bleak. Amazing, it's a political forum and none of you can acknowledge the political challenges the legalization of marijuana faces.
    Are you going to discuss that the case in your OP might not have been even related to marijuana? You keep ignoring that.

    When we try to quantify the negative effect by talking death numbers you don't want to talk about it.

    What bad things? Are you claiming that this case is an example? Do you have something else to point to?

    I know in your mind you are trying to provoke people into hypocrisy or whatever rationalization you really have for your trolling but your tactic here is stupid. You post an OP whose example is bad and are unable to come up with any examples on your own. Keep up the good work!

    This line of argument you are trying has actually been countered in the public debate. The best you can come up with is an anecdote and are afraid to discuss marijuana related deaths but the annual drunk driving fatalities are staggering and well do ented. The voters responded to the argument. Bluster away but it is what it is.

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