Chuck: "Kiwi is a top 15 player in this league..."

[Gummi Clutch]

You're being a homer bro

Kawhi is better IMO but its really damn close. The stats also favor Parsons, and you could also make the case that Kawhi gets most of the shots he does because of Timmy.

I agree with the rest of the posters, I think he's 20-25 on the list

[gilmor]

Does Kwahi surpass Manu in this team?

[jimbo]

these are not better than kawhi due to their one sidedness(sans Davis)

Do you have Los Spurs tattoo'd on your ? Only way you could be that big of a homer. (Aside from a Kawhi tramp stamp)

[apalisoc_9]

Does Kwahi surpass Manu in this team?

Since the start of the season and even more after the allstar break

[HarlemHeat37]

Advanced stats favor Leonard by a substantial margin over Parsons, so I'm not sure what Mr. Meltdown is referring to, unless he's citing antiquated numbers like PPG..

I don't think Leonard is a level better than that pussy Parsons, they're close, but I'd take Kawhi and saying "stats prefer Parsons" is just false..

And there's no way Paul Pierce is better than Kawhi at this point..

[sook]

I'd take Kiwi because he has a higher ceiling and is one of the best defenders, but based on what both players have shown this season you can't say Kiwi is a whole level above Parsons as HH also pointed out

You're being a homer bro

Kawhi is better IMO but its really damn close. The stats also favor Parsons, and you could also make the case that Kawhi gets most of the shots he does because of Timmy.

I agree with the rest of the posters, I think he's 20-25 on the list

Leonard is more efficient though I believe.

[Chinook]

Chuck just demonstrating his poor basketball takes once again. No more, no less.

[spurraider21]

If the Spurs swapped Leonard for Parsons, I don't think they'd have a snowball's chance in

[Gummi Clutch]

That is true but I just don't see Kawhi becoming head hancho after Timmy retires. I think he would be a great 2nd or 3rd guy but thats it. Also, SR you're right primarily because Kawhi anchors our defense and makes all the intangible plays.

[SupremeGuy]

Top 5 defender, tbh. In another year or two, when the is 22-23, yeah, he's gonna be great. all the haters.

He's going to get at least 2 dyop trophies and some other accolades. Honestly, he's going to shut duref down and people will see.

[ElNono]

Does Kwahi surpass Manu in this team?

He's better than 36 year old Manu, yes

[ElNono]

He still has a lot of work to do in the footstep and ball handling department... but at 22, he's pretty amazing, tbh

Credit should also go to the personnel in charge of making him the player he is right now... especially his shooting, much improved from his college years...

[HI-FI]

If the Spurs swapped Leonard for Parsons, I don't think they'd have a snowball's chance in

this. I don't care for metrosexual Parsons, but he's a solid player. I just think Kawhi comes up with a lot more game changing moments, "holy " moments if you will.

[Nero5]

Fatmelo and PG are still better

Parson and Pierce, no

Fatmelo is better in numbers, but a disaster as a member of a team.

[spurraider21]

Fatmelo is such an enigma. the dude is obviously talented as , but wherever he goes he'll be on a bloated contract, will be the #1 option on what will basically always be a stagnant offense, and won't contribute defensively except on the boards. he's more talented than kawhi, but i'd rather have kawhi on my team for the reasons i just gave

[look_at_g_shred]

Hmm if you had a choice, would you build your team around Melo or Kawhi at this point in their careers? I just see Melo as a chucker who can't defend.

[exstatic]

Top 5 defender, tbh. In another year or two, when the is 22-23, yeah, he's gonna be great. all the haters.

He's going to get at least 2 dyop trophies and some other accolades. Honestly, he's going to shut duref down and people will see.

Kawhi is 22 now, and will turn 23 at the end of June.

[exstatic]

Hmm if you had a choice, would you build your team around Melo or Kawhi at this point in their careers? I just see Melo as a chucker who can't defend.

You see him correctly.

[HarlemHeat37]

I love Kawhi as much as anybody(outside of apolisac), but he isn't better than Fat Anthony, although I wouldn't want the latter on my team, obviously..

[exstatic]

I love Kawhi as much as anybody(outside of apolisac), but he isn't better than Fat Anthony, although I wouldn't want the latter on my team, obviously..

If you feel Anthony is better, why would you NOT want him on your team? THAT makes no sense...

[will_spurs]

Melo

[HarlemHeat37]

If you feel Anthony is better, why would you NOT want him on your team? THAT makes no sense...

Anthony is a much more capable #1 or 2 than Leonard, at this point of their careers..

The problem with Carmelo is that he's still convinced he's a #1 guy, when in reality, he's better suited as a sidekick..if you put Kawhi on this year's Knicks, they would be significantly worse IMO..

I'd rather have Kawhi as the #3 option on my team over Carmelo as my #1, but as an individual player, Anthony is better..I wouldn't want Carmelo on my team because he overvalues himself, but that could very well change if he had Pop at coach..

[will_spurs]

if you put Kawhi on this year's Knicks, they would be significantly worse IMO..

News break: the Knicks are already out of the playoffs in the freaking Leastern Conference with a .423 record. They cannot be significantly worse.

[HarlemHeat37]

Carmelo is having a very good year, though, his supporting cast is atrocious..

[exstatic]

Anthony is a much more capable #1 or 2 than Leonard, at this point of their careers..

The problem with Carmelo is that he's still convinced he's a #1 guy, when in reality, he's better suited as a sidekick..if you put Kawhi on this year's Knicks, they would be significantly worse IMO..

I'd rather have Kawhi as the #3 option on my team over Carmelo as my #1, but as an individual player, Anthony is better..I wouldn't want Carmelo on my team because he overvalues himself, but that could very well change if he had Pop at coach..

...if all you look at is ppg and you're stuck in 1995, stats-wise, sure. That's ALL he does, though. His advanced metrics are for . He's a chucker.