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Password mysteriously changed this morning. PM following asking to not discuss this further. Anyone else?
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Probably related to that ridiculous wingnut website you were cruising for content tbh.
Looks like Bundy wins.
Cliven Bundy Ranch Dispute: Feds Release Cattle, Say ‘Escalating Tensions’ Caused it
Federal land managers say “escalating tensions” led them to release all 400 or so head of cattle rounded up on public land in southern Nevada from a rancher who has refused to recognize their authority.
Bureau of Land Management Chief Neil Kornze announced an abrupt halt to the weeklong roundup just hours before the release.
“Based on information about conditions on the ground and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concerns about the safety of employees and members of the public,” Kornze said in a statement.
Hundreds of states’ rights protesters, including militia members, showed up at corrals outside Mesquite to demand the animals’ return to rancher Cliven Bundy. Some protesters were armed with handguns and rifles at the corrals and at an earlier nearby rally.
Las Vegas Police Lt. Dan Zehnder said the showdown was resolved with no injuries and no violence. Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie was able to negotiate a resolution after talking withBundy, he said.
The fight between Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management widened into a debate about states’ rights and federal land-use policy. The dispute that ultimately triggered the roundup dates to 1993, when the bureau cited concern for the federally protected tortoise in the region. The bureau revoked Bundy’s grazing rights after he stopped paying grazing fees and disregarded federal court orders to remove his animals.
Kornze’s announcement came after Bundy repeatedly promised to “do whatever it takes” to protect his property and after a string of raucous confrontations between his family members and supporters and federal agents during the weeklong operation.
Bundy did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Republican Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval issued a statement praising the agency for its willingness to listen to the state’s concerns. He earlier criticized the agency for creating “an atmosphere of intimidation” and trying to confine protesters to a fenced-in “First Amendment area” well away from the sprawling roundup area.
“The safety of all individuals involved in this matter has been my highest priority,” Sandoval said. “Given the cir stances, today’s outcome is the best we could have hoped for.”
Nevada’s congressional delegation urged the protesters to be calm and to leave the area.
“The dispute is over, the BLM is leaving, but emotions and tensions are still near the boiling point, and we desperately need a peaceful conclusion to this conflict,” U.S. Sen. Dean er, R-Nev., said in a statement. “I urge all the people involved to please return to your homes and allow the BLM officers to collect their equipment and depart without interference.”
The 400 cows gathered during the roundup were short of the BLM’s goal of 900 cows that it says have been trespassing on U.S. land without required grazing permits for over 20 years.
Bundy, 67, doesn’t recognize federal authority on land he insists belongs to Nevada. His Mormon family has operated a ranch since the 1870s near the small town of Bunkerville and the Utah and Arizona lines.
“Good morning America, good morning world, isn’t it a beautiful day in Bunkerville?” Bundy told a cheering crowd after his cattle were released, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
The crowd protesting Saturday recited the pledge of allegiance, and many offered prayers. Others waved placards reading, “This land is your land,” and “We teach our children not to bully. How do we teach our government not to be big bullies?” according to the newspaper.
It’s the latest skirmish since the 1980s when the Sagebrush Rebellion challenged federal ownership of Nevada rangeland ranchers said was rightfully theirs.
A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy to remove his trespassing cattle in 1998. The bureau was implementing two federal court orders last year to remove Bundy’s cattle after making repeated efforts to resolve the matter outside court, Kornze said, adding the rancher has not paid grazing fees in 20 years.
“This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public-lands ranchers do every year,” Kornze said. “After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially.”
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/6186...ons-caused-it/
Don't tell us what oyu think the PM means. Post it so we can see for ourselves.
Nullius in verba
who sent you the PM?
I think the BLM is a ed up organization and I think the rancher was wrong. If he is gonna graze his cattle on BLM land he should have continued to pay the fee. He doesn't have a "right" go graze his cattle for free.
At the same time I do think that over zealous environmental lobby is driving BLM policy. They don't give a about the desert tortoise. They just don't want ranchers having access to BLM land. If they don't want cattle in certain areas of BLM land to protect the tortoise then they need to put up fences. Cows don't know when they are walking on "protected" land.
I think the BLM is a ed up organization and I think the rancher was wrong. If he is gonna graze his cattle on BLM land he should have continued to pay the fee. He doesn't have a "right" to graze his cattle for free.
At the same time I do think that over zealous environmental lobby is driving BLM policy. They don't give a about the desert tortoise. They just don't want ranchers having access to BLM land. If they don't want cattle in certain areas of BLM land to protect the tortoise then they need to put up fences. Cows don't know when they are walking on "protected" land.
"over zealous environmental lobby is driving BLM policy"
link for your think?
we know you don't give a about the insanely over zealous BigCarbon/BigMeat lobbies.
GFY
Wild horses targeted for roundup in Utah rangeland clash
A Utah county, angry over the destruction of federal rangeland that ranchers use to graze cattle, has started a bid to round up federally protected wild horses it blames for the problem in the latest dustup over land management in the U.S. West.
Close to 2,000 wild horses are roaming southern Utah's Iron County, well over the 300 the U.S. Bureau of Land Management has dubbed as appropriate for the rural area's nine designated herd management zones, County Commissioner David Miller said.
County officials complain the burgeoning herd is destroying vegetation crucial to ranchers who pay to graze their cattle on the land, and who have already been asked to reduce their herds to cope with an anticipated drought.
Wild horse preservation groups say any attempt to remove the horses would be a federal crime.
On Thursday county workers, accompanied by a Bureau of Land Management staffer, set up the first in a series of metal corrals designed to trap and hold the horses on private land abutting the federal range until they can be moved to BLM facilities for adoption.
"There's been no management of the animals and they keep reproducing," Miller said in an interview. "The rangeland just can't sustain it."
The conflict reflects broader tension between ranchers, who have traditionally grazed cattle on public lands and held sway over land-use decisions, and environmentalists and land managers facing competing demands on the same land.
http://news.yahoo.com/wild-horses-ta...--finance.html
LMAO @ adopting wild horses. The horse market sucks. People can't even give away broke horses.
could ship them to eastern Europe, eg Poland, for human consumption
They would have to be shipped alive to Mexico first. All the equine kill plants in the US were forced to close by the government.
Local and state governments to be precise -- before a federal ban.
And last I read, it's legal to do again but plants are running into NIMBY opposition.
I was told not to discuss any of it and can no longer access my account.
Sounds not serious.
Fairly serious is all I will say about the matter. Received a similar PM on another site as well.
Thanks. You have practical experience in the topic and your perspective is good stuff.
Seeing that you already broke the command several times and are still alive I will have to say that you are about as banned as SA210.
My recomendation is to continue talking about it with us and complaining about the people you aren't supposed to discuss. The worst that can happen is they kill you. It's a win-win.
You dislike me so much you wish me dead? You are a ing s .
the Feds dude, talk about that all day don't cower to those es. If they send an agent to your house kill him. We are now in a war, choose your side soldier.
Shut up, monkey.
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