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took me 30 seconds
Oregon prohibits cities from raising the minimum wage, but indexes it to the rate of inflation:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...ncrease_d.html
took me 30 seconds
so if WC hasn't heard of it, it doesn't exist.
again:
http://brennan.3cdn.net/61d71f6dc9f7..._phm6bx3n9.pdf
note 39 only makes exceptions to the OR law forbidding cities from their own minimum wages.
The link says:
Note, no reference to a statute.But unlike in Seattle, Oregon local officials’ opinions about the minimum wage have little impact. State law prohibits cities from raising their minimum wage. The most local officials can do is encourage state legislators to bring the issue forward, Lunch said.
Again, I say bull .
It says that. It gives no source reference. This is very unprofessional.
you disbelieve the Oregonian because the statute isn't cited?
I never believe the Oregonian at face value anyway. It lies constantly as it is. I say bull until someone references the Oregon statute that prevents cities from having their own minimum wage as claimed. If this is a fact, then source it.
Unfounded allegations don't fair well with me.
here you go: http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/653.017
took me a little longer, about five minutes. rather than educate yourself, you seem to prefer using your ignorance as a shield.
looks like the Oregonian did its job, while you hid behind bs.
Thank-You.
It's about time you guys support a claim.
No, you have it all wrong. I find it disturbing when people believe what they read without verification. Worse yet when they repeat what is often an unfounded rumor, like gossiping girls.
No, he has it absolutely right.
lol "Do your own research."
no, thank you. it's pretty rare that you admit your skepticism is mostly based on laziness and ignorance.
willful ignorance, I should say. your skepticism quickly evaporates when the source agrees with your biases.
Believe as you wish. I don't mind because you don't matter in the real world.
He does not matter in the real world...
That'll show him.
Well, I am guilty of asking others to do their own homework, but I believe I generally do such things when dealing with topics others clearly haven't educated themselves with. Especially like global warming. If you follow what I challenged, it was a post making a statement without referencing a source. The next link did the same thing. Just look at how often there are misstatements, misdirection, and outright lies in the media today.
I am a firm believer that is someone is going to post a claim as fact, it should be sourced with a reliable reference to back it up. Especially when it appears laughable, or a source is asked for. I am truly surprised that Oregon made such a law. I have never heard word of it, and also surprised I never heard of a local advocate streak out against it.
In post 220, I quoted this:It especially seemed fishy since they included Oregon in the "mostly republican leaning states" remark. In all honesty, I thought someone wrote the wrong state name, misreading a two character abbreviation and it went overlooked or something.According to Paul Sonn, general counsel and program director at the National Employment Law Project, a handful of mostly Republican-leaning states passed these kinds of bans about a decade ago, including Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Oregon, and Texas.
Believe as you wish; this forum is part of the real world.
The posts are real. The entertainment value and the boredom that underwrites it are real. The conversations involve real posters, interacting in real time. Every part of this forum is real world related and occurs within it. It's a thing among things. It's not nothing.
None of that may not be important to you, but no matter: the real world includes a lot of things that are unimportant to you.
The Country’s Largest City Is Considering A $15 Minimum Wage
Lawmakers in New York City announced a proposal to raise the city’s minimum wage for businesses with yearly sales of $50 million or more to $15 an hour on Wednesday.
The state passed a higher minimum wage that took place at the beginning of this year, rising to $8 an hour this year and $9 by 2015. The $15 wage would apply to chain stores and restaurants with at least 11 locations nationwide. While manufacturers would be exempt, those involved in transportation such as airport subcontractors would be covered. The lawmakers estimate that at least 120 chains in the city would be impacted. The wage would also be indexed to inflation, rising automatically as prices rise.
Daniel Squadron (D), who proposed the bill, said that while he supports raising the wage for everyone, it makes sense to target big chains. “These aren’t those small businesses that are just barely getting by,” he said at a news conference.
The lawmakers face a tough fight in trying to pass the wage. Currently, the city can’t set its own wage thanks to a court decision from 1961, which struck down the city’s higher minimum wage as being in conflict with the state’s wage. Advocates are pushing state lawmakers to pass legislation t hat would give New York cities and counties the authority to set higher minimum wages, according to Jack Temple, policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project. But Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) and state leaders shot down a proposal from New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) earlier this year that would have let the city set its own wage.
New York is not the only city considering the $15 wage level. Activists in Seattle filed paperwork this week to put a question on the ballot to raise the city’s minimum wage to that level over three years, although they are also pressuring the city council and Mayor Ed Murray (D), who supports raising the wage to $15 an hour, to pass the increase without exemptions or delays in the meantime. In Davis, CA, activists are also trying to put a $15 wage on the ballot and will need to collect about 7,000 signatures by May 1. They currently have about 1,200. Lawmakers in Los Angeles have been pushing to raise the minimum wage for hotel workers to $15.37 an hour. And while it wasn’t a binding vote, Chicago voters overwhelmingly supported an advisory question on whether to raise the city’s wage to that level.
The only success so far has been in the small town of SeaTac, just outside of Seattle, where voters passed a $15 minimum wage in November. But the outcome has since been embroiled in a court battle and a court ruling has limited the impact to workers outside of the airport that calls the town home, not those inside the airport.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...new-york-city/
All Economics Is Local
With the national debate stuck in the same old rut, states and cities have again become laboratories of democracy. Are they on the right path? For the last 15 years we have been doing research on just this question.
One city we have studied in detail, San Francisco, has passed a dozen labor standards laws since the late 1990s. After adding the effects of other local laws mandating employers to pay for sick leave and health spending, the minimum compensation standard at larger firms in San Francisco reaches $13. Our studies show that the impact of these laws on workers’ wages (and access to health care) is strong and positive and that none of the dire predictions of employment loss have come to pass.
Research at the University of New Mexico on Santa Fe’s floor (now $10.66) found similar results.
These are not isolated cases. Research on the effects of differing minimum wage rates across state borders confirms the results of the city studies. But how can minimum wage increases not have negative effects on employment? After all, according to basic economic theory, an increase in the price of labor should reduce employer demand for labor.
That’s not the whole story, though. A full analysis must include the variety of other ways labor costs might be absorbed, including savings from reduced worker turnover and improved efficiency, as well as higher prices and lower profits.
Modern economics therefore regards the employment effect of a minimum-wage increase as a question that is not decided by theory, but by empirical testing.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...ype=blogs&_r=0
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What You Need to Earn to Rent a Decent One-Bedroom in America
Mapped in finer detail than by state, several geographic patterns are clearer. No single county in America has a one-bedroom housing wage below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 (several counties in Arkansas come in at $7.98).
Coastal and urban counties are among the most expensive. The entire Boston-New York-Washington corridor includes little respite from high housing wages. Marin, San Francisco and San Mateo counties in California rank as the least affordable in the country (scroll over each county in the interactive version for rankings; click to zoom). In each of those counties, a one-bedroom hourly housing wage is $29.83, or the equivalent of 3.7 full-time jobs at the actual minimum wage (or an annual salary of about $62,000). Move inland in California, and housing grows less expensive.
… As a commentary on the national minimum-wage debate, this map is limited. While it suggests that a minimum-wage worker can’t afford housing in Seattle (where the one-bedroom housing wage is $17.56 an hour), in reality that person probably finds housing by renting a room in someone else’s home, by living in the cheapest part of town, or by working considerably more than 40 hours a week.
(Remember George W. Bush’s praise for the “uniquely American” story of the single mother of three who worked three jobs in Omaha?)
http://www.truthdig.com/eartothegrou...erica_20140426
Why do people insist on thinking that minimum wage should be a living wage?
Wake up Larry!
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