David Robinson: Dirk Nowitzki is "clearly the best international player ever"

[jag]

Nowitzki is way better than Parker or Ginobili. Dude has an MVP and carried a team with no real #2 guy to a le, including one of the biggest Finals upsets ever. Nowitzki is closer to the level of Duncan than Parker,Ginobili are to the level of Nowitzki.

This is pretty much all that needs to be said.

[EVAY]

Robinson has a bad habit of forgetting people…like when he forgot Timmy at his (David's) own retirement gala at the AT&T center. Timmy is international, and I would argue that Ginobili, in his prime, was better than Dirk, and Hakeem was DEFINITELY better than Dirk.

Robinson was probably trying to be nice, but he puts his foot in his mouth fairly frequently when talking about other players.

[Phenomanul]

If you held a draft of those two players, I'd pick Bird first 100 times out of 100 tries. Bird's career was cut short by back injuries but his per game #s on Dirk's. Imagine Dirk's body carrying around Manu's testicles and creativity. That starts to describe Bird.

LB 24p/10r/6.3as
DN 22.5p/8r/2.6as

And Bird played in an era with rougher defenses that hacked the out of perimeter players...

also reference my signature... Bird was a gamer...

[gilmor]

Robinson has a bad habit of forgetting people…like when he forgot Timmy at his (David's) own retirement gala at the AT&T center. Timmy is international, and I would argue that Ginobili, in his prime, was better than Dirk, and Hakeem was DEFINITELY better than Dirk.

Robinson was probably trying to be nice, but he puts his foot in his mouth fairly frequently when talking about other players.

As a person, Robinson is prob the best as any nba player can hope to be.. and he is damn bloody smart

[ManuTastic]

Patrick Ewing was born in Jamaica.

Just sayin'...

[ManuTastic]

Yes, they drafted Drexler in 83 and drafted Bowie in 84 because they already had Drexler.

And in 2007 they drafted Oden instead of Durant. Whiffing on two HOFers for injury-prone centers. Poor Portland.

[Drom John]

By WS
Tim Duncan (but is is U.S. Virgin Islands)
Dirk Nowitzki (so I'd agree with DRob, but for the "clearly")
Hakeem Olajuwon
Steve Nash
Patrick Ewing
Dominique Wilkins (military brat born in France)
Dikembe Mutombo
Pau Gasol
Detlef Schremf
Vlade Divac
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili

37 Tom Meschery
38 Boris Diaw
39 Anderson Verajao

69 Mikeal Pietrius
70 Tiago Splitter
71 Ronny Turiaf

80 Luc Mbah a Moute
81 Marco Belinelli
82 John Brown

[baseline bum]

And in 2007 they drafted Oden instead of Durant. Whiffing on two HOFers for injury-prone centers. Poor Portland.

And then they whiffed again by picking Lollard over Drummond tbh.

[Brazil]

To sum up

best international (if Hakeem is considered as american) Dirk
best white Bird

[EVAY]

As a person, Robinson is prob the best as any nba player can hope to be.. and he is damn bloody smart

Your comment is a bit of a non-sequitur to mine. As a person, I am also damn bloody smart (and nothing I said indicated that Robinson was not smart, nice or a great player), but that doesn't mean I don't get absent minded from time to time…just like Robinson!!

Chill out, dude.

[ohmwrecker]

Manu is great, but he never carried a franchise. Dirk > Manu. It's a pointless to debate it.

[Johnny RIngo]

Shut up got

Parker:
.551 - Reg Season TS%
.516 - Post Season TS%

Dirk:
.582 - Reg Season TS%
.584 - Post Season TS%

Parker isn't even in Pau's league, let alone Dirk's. TP might not even be good enough to crack a top 5 international list TBQH.

[Johnny RIngo]

And you are the most tedious, one-note "johnny" to ever appear in an alleged "fan" chat room. Please go away.

I love the Spurs but Parker deserves all the criticism and more. He was the reason we lost the 2004 Conference Semis against the Lakers. He was the only member of the big three to under perform against the Mavs in '06. Proceeded to hero-ball the Spurs out of a championship last year. Those were three very winnable years for the Spurs.

[Leetonidas]

I love the Spurs but Parker deserves all the criticism and more. He was the reason we lost the 2004 Conference Semis against the Lakers. He was the only member of the big three to under perform against the Mavs in '06. Proceeded to hero-ball the Spurs out of a championship last year. Those were three very winnable years for the Spurs.

What the ?

TP was the reason Spurs were up 2-0. Lakers decided to pack the paint, it's not Parker's fault that Hedo's nuts shriveled along with the rest of the Spurs' shooters.

[Leetonidas]

And how the did he hero ball us out of a championship? almost LITERALLY hero'd us to a le in the last 2 minutes of Game 6. GTFO with that bull

[ohmwrecker]

Parker haters are consistently the least knowledgeable posters on the site.

[Prime Time]

How can anyone be arguing this Dirk is the in' man. Here, let me give you an example - put Dirk on the Spurs in exchange for both Tony and Manu from 03-07, and they would have won just as much - if not more rings. , a Duncan-Dirk duo could have even gave the '08 Celtics a run for their money.

Dirk is incredibly good, a top 5 player in his position all-time.

[Johnny RIngo]

What the ?

TP was the reason Spurs were up 2-0. Lakers decided to pack the paint, it's not Parker's fault that Hedo's nuts shriveled along with the rest of the Spurs' shooters.

Shot 7-23 in game five. 4-18 in game six. You don't get credit for only playing two good games. Parker's numbers for the entire six game series:

16.7 ppg on horrendous efficiency(.421 TS%).

Hedo sucked but he was a goddamn role player. If your stars are playing like garbage, it's unreasonable to place all the blame on the scrubs.

And how the did he hero ball us out of a championship? almost LITERALLY hero'd us to a le in the last 2 minutes of Game 6. GTFO with that bull

Shot 6-23 in game six. 3-12 in game seven. Those are terrible shooting numbers from a first option scorer.

[benefactor]

...man...going through this thread must be painful for tlong. That franchise has tripped over it's own more times than any other has in sports history.

[Horse]

Dirk is a top 10-15 player of all time. This statement is like D-Rob saying Duncan is the best PF of all time. You can argue but you'd be wrong.

Hakeem is as much an international player as Timmy is tbh. They don't count.

dirk is a great offensive player but one-way players can't be top 10-15 especially 7-footers who can't rebound or block shots.

[Horse]

Shot 7-23 in game five. 4-18 in game six. You don't get credit for only playing two good games. Parker's numbers for the entire six game series:

16.7 ppg on horrendous efficiency(.421 TS%).

Hedo sucked but he was a goddamn role player. If your stars are playing like garbage, it's unreasonable to place all the blame on the scrubs.

The real truth is phil jackson starting is press conference whining and ing and we never got calls in the paint again. So Parker was getting hammered causing him to miss with no calls.

Shot 6-23 in game six. 3-12 in game seven. Those are terrible shooting numbers from a first option scorer.

[Brazil]

Parker:
.551 - Reg Season TS%
.516 - Post Season TS%

Dirk:
.582 - Reg Season TS%
.584 - Post Season TS%

Parker isn't even in Pau's league, let alone Dirk's. TP might not even be good enough to crack a top 5 international list TBQH.

absolutely nobody brought Parker into that discussion with Dirk dumb .

You brought Parker, nobody has never said anything about Parker being > Dirk ever

We all know you hate Parker, you have 3,000 posts saying the same stuff over and over, we get it really now gtfoh

[Johnny RIngo]

The real truth is phil jackson starting is press conference whining and ing and we never got calls in the paint again. So Parker was getting hammered causing him to miss with no calls.

refs

[DesignatedT]

Parker haters are consistently the least knowledgeable posters on the site.

[Johnny RIngo]

absolutely nobody brought Parker into that discussion with Dirk dumb .

You brought Parker, nobody has never said anything about Parker being > Dirk ever

We all know you hate Parker, you have 3,000 posts saying the same stuff over and over, we get it really now gtfoh

TP isn't on Pau's level either:

Parker:

.551 - Reg Season TS%
.516 - Post Season TS%

19.1 - Reg Season PER
17.4 - Post-Season PER

Gasol:

.569 - Reg Season TS%
.565 - Post-Season TS%

21.5 - Reg Season PER
20.8 - Post-Season PER