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The expansion era was weaker thant the 80's, but today'S NBA is even weaker than the expansion era
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-Dad Killer played in the expansion era, the weakest era of basketball in modern NBA history..a league where Reggie Miller was the best player on a contender and John Starks was the #2 guy on a contending team, etc..
- It isn't arguable that today's defenses are more sophisticated and complex compared to the 80s..it's just natural progression..today's coaches took previous ideologies and expanded them, along with the technological improvements and more advanced data..it really isn't arguable, and handchecking is the only argument that pro-80s and 90s supporters have..
- Dad Killer in '88 was a historic defender, which created an illusion for the rest of his career
He had a teammate that was arguably the best defensive perimeter player of all-time to guard the best player on the opposing team, in an era that had only a few notable perimeter players..Lebron routinely guards the opposing team's top player in the playoffs, he doesn't have anybody to fall back on, he had to shut down Rose, Parker, Pierce, etc..
Jordan ranks well in Defensive RAPM, but not in the elite like Pippen and Lebron..they both actually doubled his early 90s DRAPM numbers
Also, an indictment on Dad Killer is that the Bulls improved defensively when he left
- Jordan was one of the greatest rebounding guards of all-time, but he was still the #3 rebounder on his team
- There's literally no argument for Jordan exerting as much energy as Lebron, he isn't even close, in that regard..Jordan was the #3 rebounder and secondary defender on his team, while Lebron is the #1 everything on his team..I can only imagine what Lebron could do if he had a Pippen on defense
Well I'd say:
- the pace of the 80s and transition scoring fit right into Lebron's game
- Handchecking would only benefit a few elite defenders - it won't do for most guarding against his blow by
- He would constantly rub off screens constantly anyways to free himself from individual defenders (i.e. lack of a zone D hurts)
- LeBron's passing is elite - a big camping in the lane would be picked apart as well constantly
He wouldn't be invincible in the 80s but thinking he'd be any worse than MJ/Bird/Magic (ESPECIALLY MAGIC) is crazy. People saying he'd be just 'good' are lying to themselves.
- What's your point regarding the Knicks?..I never said Dad Killer couldn't dominate a great defensive team..he's one of the 3 best players of all-time, and it also helped that he didn't have to play defense in that series against a team with the 22nd ranked offense and terrible perimeter players..
- Lebron had a poor series against Dallas, they didn't do anything special, he dominated superior defensive teams like Chicago in the same playoffs..he just had a poor series, which every great player has suffered from, including Dad Killer..
- Lebron was really good against the Spurs in the Finals, despite the raw scoring numbers, all while running virtually all of the offense(Wade couldn't stay on the floor and nobody else could create their own shot), and shutting down Tony Parker in games 6 and 7..
Lol, true. Magic lived up to his name on offense. He was spectacular and he played a major role for 5 le teams in LA, but his defense was like his immune system
What made Magic Johnson so tough, other than taking s in his ass, tbh?..
It is of course impossible to know for sure, and everyone's take is biased based on their view of him as a player today. I think it's entirely possible that he would be the best. The best players of that era were Magic and Bird. James at his peak was probably better than both.
Lebron is one of the only players I could think of that would be able to match up with magic and physically dominate him
Magic probably likes to be physically dominated
It's also funny that ambchang used Jordan vs. the Knicks in '93 as an example of Dad Killer vs. an elite, handchecking defense..a series where Jordan shot 40% from the field but averaged 11 ing free throw attempts per game
Ridiculous officiating, considering the defenses were "so tough" back then, according to all these s
Harlem going HAM on Dad Killer's inflated legacy
One of the stupidest, most vanilla opinions I've ever seen on this forum. Did you ever watch basketball from back in the day, or do you just not know that many players from the 90s? You probably saw Reggie when he was nothing better than a role player, and said "Well, he must have always been like this" like the narrow-minded licker you are, tbh..-
How is it vanilla when it isn't the common opinion?..do you even know what vanilla means?
Yet has no problem calling Kevin Durant elite when he averages 10 free throws per game and 9 per game over his career11 ing free throw attempts per game
That last post was like a hanging slider. About to get hit out of the park
I'm not trying to on Dad Killer, btw, he's one of the 3 best players of all-time, and probably the #1 athlete of all-time when we're ranking pro athletes that were involved in the murder of a parent..
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- There's literally no argument for Jordan exerting as much energy as Lebron, he isn't even close, in that regard..Jordan was the #3 rebounder and secondary defender on his team, while Lebron is the #1 everything on his team..I can only imagine what Lebron could do if he had a Pippen on defense
Harlem going HAM on Dad Killer's inflated legacy
Go back to school, son..
Boiled down: Dad Killer had stacked teams to carry him, whereas LeBron has to do everything himselfIt's not as if MJ had someone on his team who averaged 18 rebounds per game for their career
Cuck reduced to posting nothing but the same three unfunny GIF's
Go back to school, son..
What the?! LeBron is really good but did we suddenly forget that Bosh and Wade existed?Boiled down: Dad Killer had stacked teams to carry him, whereas LeBron has to do everything himself
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