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There is no test.
It's just a message board. If people takes it as seriously as SBM and SA210 where they have to devote their holiday weekend to their feud, they could probably use someone on their side.
No, this is really funny stuff, not serious, in fact just the opposite of seriousness if you think about it.
I was an idiot and didn't even realize it as I passionately sometimes, and jokingly other times bashed his points of view.
IWe called each other every name in the book and derided each other mecilessly.
But then I "SNAPPED", I think he did too.
Why were we making such idiots of ourselves and looking so foolish, and then reating even more foolish.
What was worse in order to hide being ashamed of being such a fool I or we had to ridicule even more.
Once I snapped, I saw how my own ego led me to all of that foolishness.
Then I was able to laugh and make fun of myself.
And then I was impervious to anyone else' ridicule.
There is no test.
It's just a message board. If people takes it as seriously as SBM and SA210 where they have to devote their holiday weekend to their feud, they could probably use someone on their side.
Sometimes the simple truth is often right under our noses and delivered by those whom we see as our adversaries.Oh my gawd
I don't expect you to understand this because I see from your reaction to the truth that you are still an infant to your true of heart self.
But I have hope for you.
I will have to lol here too.Oh my gawd
If you were taking it that seriously, I am glad you stopped.
Maybe "test" was the wrong word to use.
Trial might be better.
And true it is just a message board, but this is still a reflection of their real lives as it is yours or you wouldn't devote so much of your time to it and have so much fun with it.
If it were not fun, then I doubt you would be here. The same for them and me and MrsM, Blake and et al.
I can't say it is much of a reflection of my real life outside of some movie and tv talk.
I simply don't have to deal with people who try to stalk me in real life like SA210 has.
Cops don't threaten me in real life like SBM has.
But you're neutral on all that -- it's all good to you.
You can believe what you want. You "are" what you "believe", no matter if it is the truth or not, no matter if everyone else on the planet disagrees with you.Oh my gawd
What you "feel" and "believe" is who you are. As those beliefs change, so do you change.
And most time "change" is uncomfortable abd sometimes humiliating.
That is why you should never take yourself, your ego, so seriously, because you can easily delude yourself.
It is so much easier to just accept and follow the "party" line rather than discover your true of heart self, who you truly are and can be.
I urge you to throw away all your preconceived notions and ideas and quit following stronger egos, and find yourself.
Then you truly will be happy no matter what happens.
DO NOT BE SO SERIOUS.
LAUGH MORE.
Discover yourself in as unserious a manner as you can.
I will disregard your last sentence because it was an obvious snide remark to goad me to be as sarcastic as you are.
I think what you might be failing to see is that what they are doing to you, you did to somene else in some form or another, possibly Avante maybe?
Just saying.
I am not saying they are right.
But I am not saying that you were right either.
To a certain extent maybe Avante had some of it coming to him. We all do, to a certain extent, I think.
But the "real life" reflection is much more subtle than simple minded stalking cops or photoshops.
It is more of a real life "reminder" of what we should have and could have done, but didn't because we had other agendas, such as deriding, and yes, HURTING, someone who didn't deserve to be derided and hurt.
Thus in real life it seems to manifest as a backlash in some way or ways.
It could have other more serious repercussions in real life that only you are aware of, that we are not aware of.
But karma is real, and energy (karma) that we put out there, positive and negative, always returns to us, no energy is lost, it always manifests because we each create it constantly.
I never stalked Avante.
I never threatened Avante.
Just saying.
Avante never claimed to be hurt.I am not saying they are right.
But I am not saying that you were right either.
To a certain extent maybe Avante had some of it coming to him. We all do, to a certain extent, I think.
But the "real life" reflection is much more subtle than simple minded stalking cops or photoshops.
It is more of a real life "reminder" of what we should have and could have done, but didn't because we had other agendas, such as deriding, and yes, HURTING, someone who didn't deserve to be derided and hurt.
I totally believe that SBM and SA210 are hurt very badly.
Pop philosophy isn't necessarily true.Thus in real life it seems to manifest as a backlash in some way or ways.
It could have other more serious repercussions in real life that only you are aware of, that we are not aware of.
But karma is real, and energy (karma) that we put out there, positive and negative, always returns to us, no energy is lost, it always manifests because we each create it constantly.
First, I am not picking on you just because I use your quote to reply.
Please don't think I am.
I am talking to all three of you.
Maybe, Chump, you didn't stalk Avante, but you did perpetuate and stoke the fires of the myth that he was a pedo due to his admission of a youthful mistake in judgement, even though it was culturally acceptable over there at that time. This was jumped on by many posters and mostly the trolls on this site to crucify him.
If you think he wasn't hurt by this then you are naive. Put yourself in his shoes.
What most don't "get" is that he grew amd matured from this experience and became a much better person than he may have become otherwise.
But even I can see that it hurts the man by his reactions to posters calling him a pedo.
And yes, I believe that SBM and SAw210 are reacting from being hurt too.
Does this not bother you?
They are your brothers, and fellow Spur fans.
And I think if you truly examine that philosophy you will see it in your life as well as those you love.
Now, at this point, no one is truly at fault anymore. It is what it is, the damage has been done to all parties.
If Avante, SBM, and SA210 were your actual siblings, would it not bother you that people were saying things about them that you knew were not true?
Would it not bother them if the same were said about you?
Someone of you is going to have to be the bigger man and step up to the plate and say, "enough is enough".
Which one of you can put aside their ego to not only do that, but "sustain" doint that?
I'm not sure if Avante thinks anything wrong was done at all. At any rate I stopped ribbing him about it in October. I don't think he is hurt by it or ashamed as he is prepared to explain it in detail over and over again.
No, they each got to a point where they were afraid to say what they actually thought. They chose to become trolls only and dedicated their online lives to me. They tried to stalk and threaten me. They get no sympathy because they are nothing like me. I simply questioned their claims and loled when they backed down, shut down and melted down. They had a choice how to react to it; they chose stalking and threatening.And yes, I believe that SBM and SAw210 are reacting from being hurt too.
Does this not bother you?
It's an anonymous message board.They are your brothers, and fellow Spur fans.
And I think if you truly examine that philosophy you will see it in your life as well as those you love.
Now, at this point, no one is truly at fault anymore. It is what it is, the damage has been done to all parties.
If Avante, SBM, and SA210 were your actual siblings, would it not bother you that people were saying things about them that you knew were not true?
Would it not bother them if the same were said about you?
Someone of you is going to have to be the bigger man and step up to the plate and say, "enough is enough".
Which one of you can put aside their ego to not only do that, but "sustain" doint that?
They wanted to stalk me and threaten me in real life. That's how badly they were hurt. No one else has ever reacted that way. These two were definitely hurt. They should never have gotten online in the first place. Their egos cannot handle it.
Chump, your pain and your resentment comes through loud and clear.
I feel for you bro.
It falls to you I think to end it.
You have to be the bigger man.
And then once you are.
You have to not gloat about it, ever.
This I think falls to you. Call it karma or whatever.
I just know this much, if you do this, then you come out on the other side as a much greater person than you are now.
You will be respected much more for being real and true.
You have to be the big brother here.
Anonymous message board is a lame excuse to get out of it.
If and when you do this, go all the way and don't stop, don't look back, and be consistantly sincere.
They will all see the error of their ways and wish they were the ones to have done it.
I know Avante is hurt. Even a total idiot like Blake can see this indisputable fact.
But Avante is getting over it, he is growing, he'll be fine.
Nope.You can't speak for Avante.
Nor can you speak for me.
You are being quite arrogant in doing so tbh. It seems you have just manifested your ego in a different way here. I don't know if it is a messiah complex -- others have shown that here -- but you are way over your skis here.
I am already the bigger man in this situation. The others went farther than I ever did, stalking and threatening me. Yet you continue to play the apologist for them. You have clearly taken their side here. That's fine, but you can no longer pretend to be neutral at all.
So what hurt you so bad you had to try to stalk me?
I apologize. I did not mean to give you that impression. I was just being sincere. For what it's worth, I've been in your shoes before.
I sincerely don't want to come off arrogant or some sort of egomaniac.
I am just appealing to your higher sense of honor and nobility is all.
Yes, to the trolls out there I come across as pretty harsh and arrogant, but the truth is I wish the best for them as well.
You have to be even bigger than you already are especially reading your prideful statements to these guys.
Pride comes before a fall, bro.
Just think about it, okay.
And forgive me for asking this of you. I would not have asked if I didn't think you were the better man for doing it.
Again, you just gave SBM and SA210 a pass for being worse than I ever was.
You ask nothing of them. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge the seriousness of what they attempted.
That's wrong. You can't be the arbiter of the board if you play favorites so blatantly.
I didn't mean to do that.
I ask them to to manifest their higher selves.
You are the eldest here.
I sincerely don't mean to play favorites.
By the very fact I am appealing to you means I give you the lions share of credit and favoritism as being the bigger man. They could easily interpret that the same way you do, as biased toward you.
All I ask is that you consider it.
I will shut the up about it now because I'm quite sure the trolls out there are sick to death of me and I expect to get their wrath real soon.
Just please consider it.
You are the man of the hour.
Most of us look to you whether you like it or not.
nuff said.
Again, what makes you think I am the eldest.
Of course you see me as the bigger man -- I already am the bigger man.
Criticize those idiots directly for what they tried and ask them to do what you directed me to do. Then I might believe you are more evenhanded.
Chump, I have criticized them, I have done the same to you. What good has that done? None. You all have excellent reasons that I cannot dispute for your actions.
You are the eldest because you are the oldest of the three of you. Avante is older than all of you including me.
I apologize again for asking you to take this burden upon yourself.
It isn't fair.
But nothing in life is fair.
That is not the point.
It is what is RIGHT.
It is the right thing to do and unfortunately it falls on your shoulders to do it IMHO.
Sorry, bro, I sincerely am. I have no right to ask you, I know.
I just believe you are the bigger man and the older brother.
One more time since so many here are so ing stupid thery don't get it.
I was just a kid 19-22 without a ing clue about the world. At 18 I'm in a Cali high school. at 19 I'm sitting on a bar stool in places like Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, Olongopo, Tokyo etc. Totally out of my element, totally in awe of my situation. I knew....0...about that world over there. Yep, just like those other millions and millions in that position I made it with some bar girls. The thought of..."how old are you" was never talked about or thought about simply because nobody and I mean nobody gave a , it was a total non factor.
Ok ya with me so far? Young sailor in a strange world...ok?
So years later I found out about the sex slavery thing, then it bugged the out of me. I was pissed that I wasn't told about that situation back then.
Ok that is what I said the first time I talked about this only some moronic little sick would see that as having something to do with pedo's. Are you guys really that ing stupid? I see pedophiles as the sickest s on the planet all of them need to be blown up.
Now who is the first idiot who doesn't understand any of that? So many of you really are immature and need to grow up.
Told ya he wasn't hurt.
denial
He has grown up since those days.
He's a big boy now and knows better.
Everyone makes mistakes, but only the intelligent ones learn from their mistakes.
But it is naive to say he was not hurt by all the ridicule even though he is not hurt now.
That is no excuse for all the idiot ignorant trolls to call him a pedo.
And I will continue to bash the trolls who spread this sickness because they are a hundred times worse than he is!
The real monsters on here are the trolls, those who continue to spread the vicious rumors that Avante and others are pedophiles.
They all need to be lined up against a wall with the pedophiles and slowly shot to death.
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