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    Bundy should've taken his cows off the land.

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    Rosa Parks should have sat in the back of the bus.
    fixed

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    lol that is the worst attempt at justifying a case of simple theft ever

    You're pathetic.

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    lol that is the worst attempt at justifying a case of simple theft ever

    You're pathetic.
    Not a fan of civil rights huh? Least you're honest about it.

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    Property rights are civil rights BTW. Says so right here.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/cons ution/amendmentxiv

    AMENDMENT XIV

    SECTION 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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    Not a fan of civil rights huh? Least you're honest about it.
    This isn't a civil rights issue.

    He already had his due process several times over.

    You are being dishonest and disingenuous.

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    property rights are civil rights. 14th amendment says so.

    Show me the court order allowing the BLM to kill the cows.

    Rosa Parks was breaking the law. She didn't even have the Civil Rights act on her side at the time. So she was double breaking it.

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    property rights are civil rights. 14th amendment says so.

    Show me the court order allowing the BLM to kill the cows.
    The BLM can do as it pleases with abandoned cattle on its land.

    Bundy can sue for compensation if he wants; he can take it out of the money he owes the US taxpayers. lol due process

    Rosa Parks was breaking the law. She didn't even have the Civil Rights act on her side at the time. So she was double breaking it.
    Good for her. She wasn't trying to steal from the taxpayers.

    Why are you trying to lionize some old kook freeloading off your tax dollars?

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    The BLM can do as it pleases with abandoned cattle on its land.
    And since the main concern was Bundy mooching off taxpayers, not getting them off the land by any means necessary, the obvious choice was to kill them.

    Bundy can sue for compensation if he wants; he can take it out of the money he owes the US taxpayers. lol due process
    So to be straight, you're position is lol when the government breaks the law?

    Good for her. She wasn't trying to steal from the taxpayers.
    No, she just wanted to steal their seats.

    Why are you trying to lionize some old kook freeloading off your tax dollars?
    Why are you so upset at someone taking a principled stand against what they think is an unjust law.

    BTW its been confirmed they were limiting the number of cattle on his land, and that played into his decision to stop paying. So they were literally trying to regulate him out of business. Your position is he should have just packed up and moved. Just like Rosa Parks should have packed up and gone to the back of the bus.

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    BTW I get just as upset whenever I see cops violating people's civil rights in policecam videos--even if they broke the law first.

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    And since the main concern was Bundy mooching off taxpayers, not getting them off the land by any means necessary, the obvious choice was to kill them.
    One of many options. Bundy should have taken them of BLM land.


    So to be straight, you're position is lol when the government breaks the law?
    Bundy can sue. If he wants to settle his debt to the taxpayers I'm all for compensating him for the cattle.


    No, she just wanted to steal their seats.
    Yeah, your comparison is an abject failure. There is no theft involved in the Parks situation.


    Why are you so upset at someone taking a principled stand against what they think is an unjust law.
    It's not a principled stand. He just wants something for nothing.

    BTW its been confirmed they were limiting the number of cattle on his land, and that played into his decision to stop paying. So they were literally trying to regulate him out of business. Your position is he should have just packed up and moved. Just like Rosa Parks should have packed up and gone to the back of the bus.
    Nah, my position is he should have paid his fees. Rosa Parks paid her bus fare.

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    One of many options. Bundy should have taken them of BLM land.


    Bundy can sue. If he wants to settle his debt to the taxpayers I'm all for compensating him for the cattle.
    ok then.

    Yeah, your comparison is an abject failure. There is no theft involved in the Parks situation.
    Rosa Parks was denied Liberty.
    Bundy was denied Property


    It's not a principled stand. He just wants something for nothing.
    Sorry. This was a very intentional principled stand done to prove a point. All you have to do is listen to the man's own words and see his actions. He tried to pay the fee to the state but they wouldn't take them. If anything this is more like a tax protest. Stupid? Possibly. But there are degrees of stupidity. It's working out for him so far. But its definitely principled.


    Nah, my position is he should have paid his fees. Rosa Parks paid her bus fare.
    She wasn't arrested for not paying her bus fair.

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    Nah, there is no principle here -- unless mooching is a principle. I suppose it is to you.

    Bundy owes the taxpayers of the US, so he needs to pay the federal government.

    Until he does, he is simply more of a moocher than your run of the mill welfare rancher.

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    Nah, there is no principle here -- unless mooching is a principle. I suppose it is to you.

    Bundy owes the taxpayers of the US, so he needs to pay the federal government.

    Until he does, he is simply more of a moocher than your run of the mill welfare rancher.
    And I've shown the US doesn't care about being repaid, otherwise they wouldn't have killed his cattle. The IRS isn't in the business of burning down homes they foreclose on, but that's because the IRS cares about getting paid.

    Until their actions show otherwise, I'm convinced this is about more than simple tax dodging.

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    You're saying the pictures the Bundy's took themselves of their own slaughtered cows and posted to their own social media are fake. The BLM has admitted that they did it.
    The BLM admitted to euthanizing 2 bulls...

    A BLM spokesman confirmed Thursday that two bulls had been killed during the agency’s weeklong roundup, which ended Saturday with an armed standoff between supporters of rancher Cliven Bundy and federal agents.

    The two bulls posed “a safety hazard,” said BLM spokesman Craig Leff, who didn’t elaborate on the cir stances.


    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bu...cattle-roundup

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    The BLM admitted to euthanizing 2 bulls...

    A BLM spokesman confirmed Thursday that two bulls had been killed during the agency’s weeklong roundup, which ended Saturday with an armed standoff between supporters of rancher Cliven Bundy and federal agents.

    The two bulls posed “a safety hazard,” said BLM spokesman Craig Leff, who didn’t elaborate on the cir stances.


    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bu...cattle-roundup
    You're right. The bundy's probably killed all those cows themselves and buried them just so they could blame the BLM while the BLM was on the ranch with snipers watching them do it.

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    They probably destroyed all those wells and all the other infrastructure to. A true Pyrrhic victory.

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    You're right. The bundy's probably killed all those cows themselves and buried them just so they could blame the BLM while the BLM was on the ranch with snipers watching them do it.
    I actually do think the Bundys are pretty kookoo and certainly wouldn't put it past them. But I really have no evidence whatsoever either party did that.

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    Let's just say that when you say "The BLM has admitted that they did it", you're referring to two bulls...

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    Let's just say that when you say "The BLM has admitted that they did it", you're referring to two bulls...
    how about they admitted to killing cattle? Ok, you got me, they didn't admit to killing every cow.

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    how about they admitted to killing cattle? Ok, you got me, they didn't admit to killing every cow.
    I couldn't find anything. Did you?

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    I couldn't find anything. Did you?
    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253105...-bundy-roundup

    I found at least six

    they say some "died".

    Pretty bad ranchers tbh...

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    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253105...-bundy-roundup

    I found at least six

    they say some "died".

    Pretty bad ranchers tbh...
    Don't see a quote from the BLM there...

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    Don't see a quote from the BLM there...
    where it says "according to the BLM"

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    Actually, I take that back... here's another one:

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bu...e-died-roundup

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